Last american hope.. Evander (real deal) holyfield

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  • jimmy1569
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    Last american hope.. Evander (real deal) holyfield

    Laugh all you want guys... it's going to happen once the brothers realize the ONLY fight anyone will pay to see is a fight... Klitschko vs A Klitschko against each other. Holyfield will generate money.. no doubt about it.. combine his name with Klitschko's name....

    throw in the 50 yr old angle & oldest champion in sports history.... perhaps it's Holyfield that will back up his claim of retiring with all the belts.. all he has to do now is the impossible & be the first man to beat both Klitschko's in succession... it's NOT like the brothers aren't getting old either.

    Wlad will be 36 & Vitali past 40..... The name of the game is money...that's the bottom line The Klitschko's & Holyfield are 3 of the top 15 heavyweights of alltime.... It'll be closure for Holyfield & he will be FORCED TO RETIRE if he loses & will retire in the next bout for the undisputed...
    Last edited by jimmy1569; 07-04-2011, 08:45 PM.
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    #2
    Wlad and Vtali arent Top 15 HEAVYWEIGHTS.

    Especially Vitali.

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    • boxingking500
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      #3
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      Wlad and Vtali arent Top 15 HEAVYWEIGHTS.

      Especially Vitali.
      wait are you the guy that had the klitschko-haye fight 6-5-1....??? LMAO

      your opinion is invalid

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      • B.U.R.N.E.R
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        #4
        Yeah the rounds won by either fighter were not wipeout rounds. People are acting like Wlad just dominated Haye with ease. The heck?

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          #5
          Originally posted by No Ceilings
          Wlad and Vtali arent Top 15 HEAVYWEIGHTS.

          Especially Vitali.
          You're right... there domination size power & skills have never really been matched before...i would say top 2 IF I knew EVERYone was keeping it real.... esp. Vitali but since i know that is not the case.. i kept it at that & if you think there are 13 or 14 heavyweight fighters that have been more dominant that can actually be assured of a W going H2H against them in a hypothetical match... i'd like to hear it... first all the alltime greats before them have to start with overcoming the size factor... then they have to find a way to negate the jab & then they have to actually be able to tag the brothers...

          Lennox Lewis proved he could tag Klitschko but look how much punishment he had to take while doing so. & How many alltime greats are Lewis' size.... face it.. these guys are un precedented... they are programmed like robots & have devised a way to win 98 of the 103 fights they've fought collectively... ONLY 15 fighters survived without getting knocked out... 88 didn't... i suggest you study your boxing history & relaize there combination of size.. power.. unbelievable jabs & are 2 of the most offensive fighters in the divisions history while mastering on the defensive end.

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            #6
            BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE! Nah, Evander is too old. Guy has been fighting since I was in my mother's womb.

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              Evander would never earn another shot, and no sanctioning organization would risk the backlash of putting a delusional, brain damaged Holyfield in with either Klitschko.

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                #8
                Oh & please everyone.. enough with the resume BS.... NOT Wlad's or Vitali's faults they don't have the names of the past on there ledger.. They've fought whomever was available.. Bottom Line is SKILLS.. SIZE... POWER.. HITTING & NOT GETTING HIT.. they have ALL the advantages vs ALL the aLLTIME greats before them & i'd have them as a favorite against ANY of the fighters that have the better resumes & let's face it... that is opin ion based when you come down to it.

                For example in basketball you had Wilt Chamberlain dominating like no one before or after him & this WAS solely because of the inferior comp he was facing... this doesn't mean he was better than Shaq who came after him decades later.. HE HAD THE superior stats but Shaq was even bigger than him in stature...

                WITH the brother's you don't have ANYONE COMPARAble to them in size that's any good.. closest thing to them in talent & skills in the entire history of the division is Lewis & he was slightly smaller than them & who's to say he was better just because he faced better names..

                Vitali proved he could outbox him & lost because of a cut.. what that tells me is that Vitali will have always outboxed him because he would've beaten him to the punch most of the time as he proved through most of that fight... being out of shape & past his prime was just a bogus excuse. Vitali does that to him at ANY stage of there careers... only thing that happens differently is the cut doesn't happen... if you cut thru the bs... that's the reality of the situation.

                Vitali doesn't outbox every single opponent he's ever faced by accident... it's time to realize how great he is... no one has ever been more DOMINant than him for a reason.. he's that good. based on his combination of skills.. size power boxing ability on offense & on defense & what he's done in the ring.. he's easily the number one heavyweight of alltime....

                we focus on who he hasn't fought instead OF taking a long look at what he's done to who he's fought as that's the only thing that's in his control... remember all the fighters he's never fought have NEVER BEAT hIM so let's stop pretending like they would... they'd all start off as underdogs before the bout & that's all you need to know.... resume bs is just excuses... skills & how you actually fight & NOT who you haven't fought should take precedence..

                I don't need Michael Jordan to play in every era & take on the Kobe's & Lebron's TO REALIZE he did it the best & would outplay each of them with no questions asked at his best.. same thing here.. Michael Jordan has the highest PER of alltime & (this includes every player that's ever stepped on an NBA floor) for a reason....

                Vitali Klitschko has the highest BER of ANY boxer that's ever laced up the gloves regardless of weight class ALSO for a reason..... i suggest we staRT TO TAKE heed... most would agree if we had a SUPER heavyweight division .. he'd be the top super heavyweight of his size ever... THAT'S like saying he'd be the best center of alltime in the Nba..It's equivalent... but the thing is that his position is that of a heavyweight & he's got the best numbers of alltime & you'd be hardpressed to find better numbers in the lower weight classes.

                MJ had the best numbers of alltime regardless of what position he played on the floor....it's the same thing... the fact that VK is bigger than most everyone else should clinch it as he has the advantage over anyone who's ever laced up the gloves.. I hope this makes sense because it makes sense to me & it's the truth. YoU gUYS are all taking.. literally the most dominant fighter of alltime for granted... he's that superior for real!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  Evander would never earn another shot, and no sanctioning organization would risk the backlash of putting a delusional, brain damaged Holyfield in with either Klitschko.
                  At the end of the day... money talks & bollshet walks. They put him in with a much bigger opponent in Valuev & everyone said he'd get killed....if ANYONE has credentials for a Klitschko fight is him.. He's going to pass all the medical tests be4 the bout. & let's be honest.. who's going to be the fighter more afraid in this bout. Wladimir KNOWS what Holyfield is capable of & will be extra cautious.. worse that's going to happen is he gets hit by the jab as Wlad will be in chcicken mode & won't dare unleash the right for fear that it will unleash Holyfield. a 50 yr old Holyfield still has some pop & let's not forget the smarts & know how to perhaps create openings & i'd like to see him tie up Holyfield if he gets inside... his 'head' alone will see to it that wlad endures the entire rush & fights his way out. Don't sleep on Evander!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    Wlad and Vtali arent Top 15 HEAVYWEIGHTS.

                    Especially Vitali.
                    pipe down monkeyboy

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