I'm Kinda Shocked By All These Comments. What Did Wlad Do?

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  • blank_frackis
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    #21
    Wlad said that Haye fought a defensive fight, but there are two sides to that. Wlad's entire style is really based around keeping the other guy at a distance. It's defensive fighting on the front foot - press forward jabbing the other guy backwards, but hold back on stepping in with the right. If he executes it properly then he'll always win the fight because he'll take rounds off the jab and the other guy can't get close enough to ever do any damage.

    I mean the idea that Haye wanted to fight a defensive fight doesn't make much sense. He wanted Wlad to come after him and he wanted to be able to get in close (those were the only ways he could win) but he just couldn't do it and Wlad is too disciplined to deviate from his game plan. He certainly didn't let Wlad hit him with power shots, but what's he supposed to do? Stand there and let himself get knocked out? Haye tried to jump in on him several times and it mostly just resulted in him falling over because Wlad is too good at stepping back and keeping the other guy at range.

    It was basically two fighters who could almost completely nullify the other guy's attacks. In that situation it's the guy who can jab the other guy that wins, but let's not pretend it was any more dominant or offensive than that.

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    • vacon04
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      #22
      Originally posted by LegendOfLink
      I was expecting Wlad to win by knockout, I think Haye is a blown up cruiserweight. Plus, didn't Vitali call Haye a blown up cruiserweight too? Wasn't Haye like 210 pounds for this fight?
      I was expecting that too, the same I was expecting Haye to engage Wlad in fight. Haye was just running for his life, it's really hard to KO a boxer that gets into that defensive/survival mode.

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      • americanbot
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        #23
        Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
        Wlad is no more a product of his era then Larry Holmes was
        holmes would have murdered haye tonight......holmes would have tattooed wlad & made him cry.

        look at wlads skin, VERY VERY easy to burst. holmes would have literally had a field day with ether klits face.

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        • vacon04
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          #24
          Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN
          Klitschko shoud be tested.
          Why are you getting so defensive?
          When asked he has agreed for steroids testing, even Povetkin's manager said it.

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          • $tate of Mind
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            #25
            Originally posted by blank_frackis
            Wlad said that Haye fought a defensive fight, but there are two sides to that. Wlad's entire style is really based around keeping the other guy at a distance. It's defensive fighting on the front foot - press forward jabbing the other guy backwards, but hold back on stepping in with the right. If he executes it properly then he'll always win the fight because he'll take rounds off the jab and the other guy can't get close enough to ever do any damage.

            I mean the idea that Haye wanted to fight a defensive fight doesn't make much sense. He wanted Wlad to come after him and he wanted to be able to get in close (those were the only ways he could win) but he just couldn't do it and Wlad is too disciplined to deviate from his game plan. He certainly didn't let Wlad hit him with power shots, but what's he supposed to do? Stand there and let himself get knocked out? Haye tried to jump in on him several times and it mostly just resulted in him falling over because Wlad is too good at stepping back and keeping the other guy at range.

            It was basically two fighters who could almost completely nullify the other guy's attacks. In that situation it's the guy who can jab the other guy that wins, but let's not pretend it was any more dominant or offensive than that.
            Excellent post man. That's a great break down of the fight.

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            • gibo
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              #26
              All the **** talk from haye and all the fake dives shows what a fraud this fake really is! Never seen a fighter talk so much **** and get beat so bad!!! OH! then he claims a toe injury!!!! Hes happy with the payday and never expected to win.

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              • Leohappy
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                #27
                Originally posted by blank_frackis
                He certainly didn't let Wlad hit him with power shots, but what's he supposed to do? Stand there and let himself get knocked out? Haye tried to jump in on him several times and it mostly just resulted in him falling over because Wlad is too good at stepping back and keeping the other guy at range.
                haye failed, because he went in too cautiously. first 2 rounds were a total waste of time. haye should have done what he started in 11th and well executed in 12th, basically insane pressure, that let wlad bounce back and open up for clear shots. what he tried in earlier rounds just looked like a silly bullrush. him ending either on the knee or in the ropes.

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                • Davros?
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by blank_frackis
                  Wlad said that Haye fought a defensive fight, but there are two sides to that. Wlad's entire style is really based around keeping the other guy at a distance. It's defensive fighting on the front foot - press forward jabbing the other guy backwards, but hold back on stepping in with the right. If he executes it properly then he'll always win the fight because he'll take rounds off the jab and the other guy can't get close enough to ever do any damage.

                  I mean the idea that Haye wanted to fight a defensive fight doesn't make much sense. He wanted Wlad to come after him and he wanted to be able to get in close (those were the only ways he could win) but he just couldn't do it and Wlad is too disciplined to deviate from his game plan. He certainly didn't let Wlad hit him with power shots, but what's he supposed to do? Stand there and let himself get knocked out? Haye tried to jump in on him several times and it mostly just resulted in him falling over because Wlad is too good at stepping back and keeping the other guy at range.

                  It was basically two fighters who could almost completely nullify the other guy's attacks. In that situation it's the guy who can jab the other guy that wins, but let's not pretend it was any more dominant or offensive than that.
                  I agree with what you say, they just shut each other down but Wlad's jab was landing enough to win the rounds.

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                  • Pinoy4ever
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                    #29
                    Jab jab and grab that's says it all.
                    Haye is a B-U-M himself

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                      #30
                      I was promised a KO in this fight and instead both did minimum effort to win..

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