Comments Thread For: Klitschko vs Haye: The Pre-Unification Report Card

[Yaconcha]

a couple of minor points here that i would raise dispute to such as, who hits harder and klitchko having a b+ in speed.
overall a good read and well assessed.
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[Dave Rado]

a couple of minor points here that i would raise dispute to such as, who hits harder

When has Haye ever knocked anyone unconscious with a single punch?

and klitchko having a b+ in speed.

Yes, I'd give him A-. For such a big man his speed is remarkable and massively underrated.

[edgarg]

This guy shouldn't tell so many lies. Like "Klitschko's arms are so abnormally long"..... He has short arms for his size, 81" REACH as against Haye's 78" and thats a total of BOTH arms plus chest width, from finger tip to finger tip. That difference is NOTHING in a fight. VK has only an 80" reach, even shorter. he is 6'8" tall.

As against that Sonny Liston had 84" reach and he was only 6 ft tall. Klitschko is over 6'6" with a shorter reach:

And there's lots more but what's the point, I'm talking to Dumbos.

[Motofan]

by Cliff Rold - Forget the belts.

The Heavyweight Championship of the World, the real one, the one that matters, belongs to one man. That man enters this Saturday’s massive title fight at the Imtech Arena in Hamburg, Germany, on the best run of his career. He has won 13 in a row, ten of them title fights, partially unified the class, picked up the Ring Magazine belt, and still the question remains:

Who is Wladimir Klitschko?

Until he is deposed, he remains the center of the story. His reign grows longer in years and fights and there are those beginning to wonder where he might shake out in the grad scheme of fistic history. Is he the fighter many in the boxing world still think can’t fight from the bottom? Or is he, given the experience of the first Peter fight and the momentum gathered in the run since, a matured, battle tested veteran ready to have his signature moment with a heated rival?

But is the rival really good enough in the ring to ask the question? After all, it is just as fair to ask:

Who is David Haye?

Emanuel Steward: What I like about David (Haye) is he comes with the winning mindset. Not like a lot of the opponents we have fought recently. We go back to the first Sam Peter fight, he was a tough guy. He came to win. And maybe one or two since then. But no one came in since Sam Peter with the mindset of David.

Wladimir Klitschko’s trainer, Emanuel Steward, speaking at the final pre-fight press conference, June 27, 2011 [Click Here To Read More]

I hope you will be around after the fight.

[UglyPug]

This guy shouldn't tell so many lies. Like "Klitschko's arms are so abnormally long"..... He has short arms for his size, 81" REACH as against Haye's 78" and thats a total of BOTH arms plus chest width, from finger tip to finger tip. That difference is NOTHING in a fight. VK has only an 80" reach, even shorter. he is 6'8" tall.

As against that Sonny Liston had 84" reach and he was only 6 ft tall. Klitschko is over 6'6" with a shorter reach:

And there's lots more but what's the point, I'm talking to Dumbos.

actually roldie is on point by stating he has long arms. like u said, REACH, as measured in boxing is from fingertip to fingertip, and thus takes into account more than arm length such as chest and back width, and shoulder girth. Wladimir doesn't have a very wide back or a barrel chest, he is tailored in a more narrow fashion. whereas haye has a bit more girth around the chest and back.

I have debated whether a boxers chest and back width enable them to have a better reach. It does make sense that they should be taken into account, because when you stick your arm straight out as if jabbing, you find you can extend it further if you kinda turn your back and shoulder.

Anyway, the 3 inches Wladimir enjoys in height will add to his 3 inch reach; so wladimir really has a 6 inch advantage on haye (because he fights straight up), which is pretty huge when considering that boxing is a game of millimeters - you don't wanna make your opponent miss by a mile, but rather a millimeter.

[crold1]

I hope you will be around after the fight.

Why wouldn't I be?

[crold1]

Klitschko won going away. Full credit.

[kayjay]

Klitschko won going away. Full credit.

I was out of the country and am just now catching up on your articles. I'm going to do you a favor pretend you were kidding in this prediction.

Edit: good analysis, but you got one thing wrong: Wlad has given abundant evidence that he doesn't need to be set to throw the right. He won't often, but as far as technique is concerned he throws it beautifully on the move.