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  • #51
    Originally posted by -Genesis- View Post
    Why is that interesting?
    It's interesting because Floyd has said emphatically FOR YEARS that rematches are for people who "don't get it right the first time", yet he has a clause for one in all of his fights. I'm sure it's a formality on his managers part, but for some people it does imply a small measure of doubt on the side of the party requiring it.

    Originally posted by JoeDaWg View Post
    And even the IDEA of manny vs ortiz gives me goose bumps. Vic would have floyds scalp on his wall at that point and vic ain't afraid to fight toe to toe. IT WOULD BE A WAR. Stylistically that is probably the most exciting fight that could be made in boxing today. I don't see it happening, but hey, vics got a better shot then floyds last two victims put together, so that's something. Dude doesn't have grand kids, and he's a LEGIT 147 pounder. Now his skills ain't anywhere near floyds, but all it takes is one good shot... I can't wait for this fight
    Unfortunately, the first thing that comes to mind with Manny and Vic fighting is them possibly being too friendly. When Ortiz publically thanked Pacquiao during his post fight interview with HBO, I was a little disappointed. I could see Victor giving Manny too much respect in the ring, and for a fight to truly be competitive (IMO) both fighters need to have a real fire about them to win against their opponent (like Vic did against Berto). And also, no matter how legitamate a fight between the two might appear, Pacquaio critics will again degrade him for fighting another Mayweather leftover (which I personally think is ridiculous) Everyone is someones leftover and that doesn't make them less credible as an opponent)


    Side note: Before anyone else says it - Yes I realize Ortiz is a professional and wants to win... but we've all seen the difference between two guys who aren't friends and have a genuine dislike for each other and a tap gloves friendly sparring championship fight. Victor would be fighting the guy he was previously thanking for advice and saying "he's a good friend" on LIVE television. It does make you a bit leary...

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    • #52
      Oh you will definitely get the Pac fight after you lose because if you beat Mayweather..... forget about fighting Manny Pacquiao because he ain't fighting no one on top of his game in the WW division.

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      • #53
        The Racket Squad: As Dusk Beckons, Ortiz Calls

        The record books are filled with newly crowned champs who went on to do great things beyond their perceived capacity.
        I think Ortiz is one of those guys.
        A Vic-tory would hardly be a miracle.
        Floyd will not be at his full level of concentration and the new Ortiz confidence shall be.

        A lack of activity and a mind that compares Bonds with Pac is how Floyd survives.
        Mayweather utilizes race baiting in the same fashion as his steroid accusations.
        His mental agenda is fixated upon things that have very little to do with the sport of Boxing.
        This mental, ego driven bloat, could easily assist in his first true loss.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by StrangerInTown View Post
          The record books are filled with newly crowned champs who went on to do great things beyond their perceived capacity.
          I think Ortiz is one of those guys.
          A Vic-tory would hardly be a miracle.
          Floyd will not be at his full level of concentration and the new Ortiz confidence shall be.

          A lack of activity and a mind that compares Bonds with Pac is how Floyd survives.
          Mayweather utilizes race baiting in the same fashion as his steroid accusations.
          His mental agenda is fixated upon things that have very little to do with the sport of Boxing.
          This mental, ego driven bloat, could easily assist in his first true loss.
          Ok but when/if Ortiz loses then lets not hear how green and weak of an opponent he is.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by PRBOXINGCOTTO View Post
            Ortiz will look good in the early rounds but once floyd gets rid of the rust ortiz will lose every round berta was a chump not champ ortiz is good but not in the league of floyd cotto pac
            HAHAHAHAHAHA! Cotto shouldn't be mentioned with Floyd and Pac. You're such a homer man! hahaha! pathetic!

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            • #56
              Originally posted by AceBoeing View Post
              Lets get real....Let's look at FRaud resume as well...And lets not be nuthugging mayweathers **** all the time.. you must be exhausted from sucking on his ****... And for your small brian too comprehend... FRaud has been ducking Manny since he got to the welterweight division... he is ducking him now... and Fraud ducked the whole welterweight division. His been fighting mediocre fighter his whole life... BAldomir anyone. So STOP SUCKING on his **** so you can think straight dumbass...He ducked shane...he ducked cotto... he ducked margarito... then he fought de lahoya on the decline... he even ducked berto and clottey... once again stop nuthugging.. and stopt hating on Pacquaio.
              Dont be so silly Pacboy. I do not accept " oh, but Floyd..... " replies, in response to a question about Manny. What sort of b1tch is content to allow himself to be judged by another mans standards?

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              • #57
                Originally posted by JoeDaWg View Post
                Man it's great to hear that **** from vic, dude is saying all the right things. I don't have him beating floyd but if the miracle did happen I think it would probably be the best thing that's happened to boxing in years.

                Floyd would have to rebuild his image and I think his pride alone would force him to redeem himself with a pac fight, all the excuses would be out the window. We would defiantly see him fight manny then.

                And even the IDEA of manny vs ortiz gives me goose bumps. Vic would have floyds scalp on his wall at that point and vic ain't afraid to fight toe to toe. IT WOULD BE A WAR. Stylistically that is probably the most exciting fight that could be made in boxing today. I don't see it happening, but hey, vics got a better shot then floyds last two victims put together, so that's something. Dude doesn't have grand kids, and he's a LEGIT 147 pounder. Now his skills ain't anywhere near floyds, but all it takes is one good shot... I can't wait for this fight
                It is hilarious that Pac thinks that " Ortiz is too gleen, talk my plomoter ".

                The thought of Ortiz may give you goosebumps, but it gave Manny the ****s

                Mike Jones anyone ?

                The Manny-circus continues.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by StrangerInTown View Post
                  The record books are filled with newly crowned champs who went on to do great things beyond their perceived capacity.
                  I think Ortiz is one of those guys.
                  A Vic-tory would hardly be a miracle.
                  Floyd will not be at his full level of concentration and the new Ortiz confidence shall be.

                  A lack of activity and a mind that compares Bonds with Pac is how Floyd survives.
                  Mayweather utilizes race baiting in the same fashion as his steroid accusations.
                  His mental agenda is fixated upon things that have very little to do with the sport of Boxing.
                  This mental, ego driven bloat, could easily assist in his first true loss.
                  " Vic too green, talk my plomoter "

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by AceBoeing View Post
                    Lets get real....Let's look at FRaud resume as well...And lets not be nuthugging mayweathers **** all the time.. you must be exhausted from sucking on his ****... And for your small brian too comprehend... FRaud has been ducking Manny since he got to the welterweight division... he is ducking him now... and Fraud ducked the whole welterweight division. His been fighting mediocre fighter his whole life... BAldomir anyone. So STOP SUCKING on his **** so you can think straight dumbass...He ducked shane...he ducked cotto... he ducked margarito... then he fought de lahoya on the decline... he even ducked berto and clottey... once again stop nuthugging.. and stopt hating on Pacquaio.
                    U r a true blue pac fan like crazy one at that a true boxing will review and look back at facts b4 making silly ****** dumb accusations like u did lets take a look back at ur statement and correct each one. here we go.......u say he has been fighting mediocre ppl his whole life....really???/ i honestly believe u dont believe dat.....baldomir wuz the lineal ww champion at da time he wuz offered magarito who wuz a nobody and had a paper title given too him check if u want baldomir had more buzz at the time and a legit title. and he whooped judah a person all pac fans claimed gave may "trouble". its interesting u think magarito cotto and shane wuz the whole welterweight division. i didnt kno boxing wuz mlb or nba who only has 4 or 5 teams to a division. Stop it forreal may and shane were never in da same division until mosley's late age and go back and find articles u will find when may wuz a super featherweight around da time shane wuz a lightweight at da time may wuz 22-0 and mosley wuz 32-0 and a bigger star just by a lil. mosley had the chance to fight may but instead wanted hoya at welterweight(hoya wuz THE fighter money fighter at da time) so cant knocked mose for takin dat fight but u also cant say may ducked mosley. And didnt de la hoya thrashed mayorga b4 fighting may ppl had hoya picked to win by knockout but cudnt catch and may fought him at the LEGIT SUPER WELTERWEIGHT BOUT. not no catchweight weight draining fighters to relax wit dat. now he ducked berto and clottey......BERTO AND CLOTTEY GUY R U SERIOUS MAN!!!!!! if dat isnt da funniest ish ever said then i dont know wut is. berto wuz and overhyped fighter who ppl swore up and down he can box but in reality he cant box u never see floyd fight anybody else's fight he boxes constantly never slugs and and hit solidly like dat all da time and CLOTTEY if he stood still like dat against the most accurate puncher of all time manny landing 227 of 1212 punches(might b a lil off but u can check) against clottey r u serious dat is terrible may wud land da same maybe more punches and we wudnt b bored watching so u shud follow ur own advice and stop nuthugging.. and stop hating on may dat is LMAO HAVE A NICE DAY

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Specialist6 View Post
                      U r a true blue pac fan like crazy one at that a true boxing will review and look back at facts b4 making silly ****** dumb accusations like u did lets take a look back at ur statement and correct each one. here we go.......u say he has been fighting mediocre ppl his whole life....really???/ i honestly believe u dont believe dat.....baldomir wuz the lineal ww champion at da time he wuz offered magarito who wuz a nobody and had a paper title given too him check if u want baldomir had more buzz at the time and a legit title. and he whooped judah a person all pac fans claimed gave may "trouble". its interesting u think magarito cotto and shane wuz the whole welterweight division. i didnt kno boxing wuz mlb or nba who only has 4 or 5 teams to a division. Stop it forreal may and shane were never in da same division until mosley's late age and go back and find articles u will find when may wuz a super featherweight around da time shane wuz a lightweight at da time may wuz 22-0 and mosley wuz 32-0 and a bigger star just by a lil. mosley had the chance to fight may but instead wanted hoya at welterweight(hoya wuz THE fighter money fighter at da time) so cant knocked mose for takin dat fight but u also cant say may ducked mosley. And didnt de la hoya thrashed mayorga b4 fighting may ppl had hoya picked to win by knockout but cudnt catch and may fought him at the LEGIT SUPER WELTERWEIGHT BOUT. not no catchweight weight draining fighters to relax wit dat. now he ducked berto and clottey......BERTO AND CLOTTEY GUY R U SERIOUS MAN!!!!!! if dat isnt da funniest ish ever said then i dont know wut is. berto wuz and overhyped fighter who ppl swore up and down he can box but in reality he cant box u never see floyd fight anybody else's fight he boxes constantly never slugs and and hit solidly like dat all da time and CLOTTEY if he stood still like dat against the most accurate puncher of all time manny landing 227 of 1212 punches(might b a lil off but u can check) against clottey r u serious dat is terrible may wud land da same maybe more punches and we wudnt b bored watching so u shud follow ur own advice and stop nuthugging.. and stop hating on may dat is LMAO HAVE A NICE DAY
                      Pacquiao threw a total of 1231 punches (a career high), but landed just 246

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