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  • #21
    This one takes the cake.

    Doug Tucker in the Cristian Mijares-Jose Navarro fight.

    Mijares won the fight, even by a pretty wide margin, but Tucker scored the fight 12-0 for Navarro.

    I have watched a LOT of boxing. and that is the all time worst scorecard I have ever seen. ever. a shutout for the guy who widely lost? good god.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
      A bad scorecard is a bad scorecard is a bad scorecard.

      Terrible scorecards from judges who show continued incompetence (or behind the scenes corruption) can be criticized as much as you want. Hardly constitutes grounds on which you can be sued for slander or defamation.

      You might want to read the cliff notes on what are grounds for being sued, but I doubt this could be one of them. As long as you're not posting statements encouraging people to harass them, I can see it being pulled off without much incident.

      Personally, I like the idea. Teddy Atlas exposed the fact that promoters take judges out to dinner before events, etc. and who knows what else happens... If people started harassing those **** suckers, we would at least give them some consequence to their corruption or complete incompetence (the Martinez-Williams judge and the Alexander's Kotelnik/Matthysse judge have to be corrupt). Multiple terrible scorecards should qualify them for being a corrupt POS, who should get harassed.
      I made a thread last year about that Benoit judge who scored the Martinez-Pwill fight, I looked at his BoxRec and he has a HISTORY of judging fights that are complete opposites of the other 2 judges. His son was a serial killer and this dude would score a card like

      40-36 and the other 2 judges would have it 36-40 36-40, ****** stuff like that. and he is STILL judging.

      I love Boxing and it makes me feel sick to my stomach when I see fighters get robbed when they put their all on the line but get shafted because a judge is favoring a certain fighter based on color/race/promoter/location.

      This stuff needs to be changed and we need to revamp the way we judge fights.

      Most of these judges are senile old farts that dont care if they get caught taking a bribe, they are all retired people with a pension and do this for a little bit of cash. To them its nothing to take a bribe.

      But for a fighter it RUINS THEIR CAREERS. Lucas Matthysse should have 1 loss (and even then it was a close fight with Judah).

      Now people are going to
      1) Avoid him
      2) underpay him saying oh look at your record you lost 2x

      It just makes my blood boil that when 99% of the Boxing fans said hey, Lucas is going to get robbed if he doesnt get a KO even if he knocks Devon down and dominates in a 10 ROUND fight. Thats what makes it sad, we ALL knew it was going to happen, and it did.

      People talk about how boxing used to be controlled by mafia and fights were fixed, well? It still is, now instead of bribing the Fighters to take a dive they just bribe the judges/ref/commision.

      Like I said, we need a revamp on the whole judging system and to get a central authority which will

      1) Have strict judging guidelines
      2) strict testing for all judges (will get rid of all these seniles)
      3) Penalties which can result in jail time/huge fines if judge is found to be bribed or marking crazy score cards for a certain fighter/promoter.

      We need to have professionals judging these TV/Title fights, not senile old dudes who look at a guy punching fast and thinking its all landing because their eyes cant see for **** and their response time is slow slow slow.

      Just makes me MAD, A sport that I love so much (have terabytes of fights, basically any fight that is digital I have). Just blah, no words to describe it when people can joke "he's getting robbed" and it happens.

      Im tired and wont take it in the ass anymore, I have spent thousands on PPV's and Boxing stuff and im not buying another PPV ever, going to watch streams.

      Why should we boxing fans take it in the ass from these promoters/companies? We deserve better. They are all thinking we are ******s.

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      • #23
        Since people are pointing out the judges for the Marquez-Pacquiao fight, lets get the judges for the Mayweather-Castillo fight.

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        • #24
          He's not going to get sued if he's smart about it.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by -Genesis- View Post
            He's not going to get sued if he's smart about it.
            Posting peoples address and phonenumber is pretty ****** and an expressway to court.

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            • #26
              There is no freedom of speech.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by -Genesis- View Post
                He's not going to get sued if he's smart about it.
                posting ppls private info is not protected speech. maybe their offic addresses but their private addresses and numbers? private disclosure...common law concept. u will get sued i guarantee it.

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                • #28
                  http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...4#post10749034

                  ^Exposing this Judge already, he didnt have a valid Missouri Judging license until 6 days AFTER the Kotelnik fight. So out of his thousands of fights he has done in his life only 2 were in Missouri, both of them being Devons fights. AND he didnt have a license.

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                  • #29
                    Start with Canada and Germany.

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                    • #30
                      Expose them how? What are you going to do, get a public vote on their erroneous scoring and formally lobby boxing commissions to ban them from being judges? This idea is going nowhere fast, and as others have noted, you could end up in court over this crap.

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