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  • F l i c k e r
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    #11
    Originally posted by WALDO.
    Khan doesn't and has never shown good body punching. You say Ortiz has no head movement, will neither does Khan. Khan's defense is his legs and even then he tends to back up in a straight line, which makes him susceptible to right hands. Both have their flaws, but with confidence, going by what I've seen from both...I can definitely say Ortiz poses the better challenge, especially if he shows the same willingness to win that he showed against Berto.
    That willingness is nothing because if you can't hit your target, your not gonna show anything worth praising.

    Even Hatton showed a willingness to win but how many praises does Hatton get for his valiant effort?

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #12
      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
      That willingness is nothing because if you can't hit your target, your not gonna show anything worth praising.

      Even Hatton showed a willingness to win but how many praises does Hatton get for his valiant effort?
      I understand that, but it beats the heck out of getting tagged...then going retreat mode, which is what Ortiz pulled against Peterson and Nate Campbell (To some extent).

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      • Major Motoko
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        #13
        Originally posted by hent
        Khan has a jab, speed and body punching. Ortiz has no head movement or boxing skills what so ever. He also lacks the work ethic of Khan and doesnt really have the desire for the sport. Ortiz will turn up just for the paycheck.

        Mayweather doesnt like to fight fast guys so we will never see this fight. Roach and Ariza both back Khan to take Floyd apart.
        Ortiz does move his head movement. Compare round 6 when Ortiz got up from that Berto shot to round 10 when Maidana wobbled Khan. Ortiz dodged and ducked more than half of Berto's punches while Khan was just taking them.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Major Motoko
          Ortiz does move his head movement. Compare round 6 when Ortiz got up from that Berto shot to round 10 when Maidana wobbled Khan. Ortiz dodged and ducked more than half of Berto's punches while Khan was just taking them.
          Ortiz has as much head movement as he does heart. Compare how Khan carried on fighting vs Maidana to how Ortiz quit.

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          • Hard Boiled
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            #15
            No comparison between Khan and Ortiz, Ortiz quit like a dog against Maidana, A guy that was beaten the worst in his career by Khan. There is a big difference between being caught early and being KO'd and quiting like a dog in a fight you could have won and acting like a goofy kid.

            Ortiz not only quit like a dog against Madiana, He fought like a b1tch against Nate Campbell and looked bad against Peterson. Not just that but Khan stopped Ortiz within 2 rounds in the amateurs.

            Hate to say it but Ortiz is just another HBO/GBP hypejob he is going to loose to Mayweather and Ortiz can go back to fighting on Khan's undercard and carrying Khan's jockstrap.

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            • Major Motoko
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              #16
              Originally posted by hent
              Ortiz has as much head movement as he does heart. Compare how Khan carried on fighting vs Maidana to how Ortiz quit.
              At 147 Ortiz is much better. Even Freddy Roach was saying it.

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              • steeluv
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                #17
                Originally posted by Vegan102
                Didn't he get KTFO by a nobody. I liek Khan but people are acting like he is light years ahead of Ortiz. Atleast ortiz went out on his feet. Also Ortiz looked like **** against Peterson. Khan looked like **** against McCloskey. Oh cuz he lost to the guy that beat ortiz. i bet money Ortiz would ko prescott. Also ortiz is stronger and t he harder punches, but have almost the same height.
                Khan KO'd Ortiz before he had Freddie in his corner u knob! when Khan was wack

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Major Motoko
                  At 147 Ortiz is much better. Even Freddy Roach was saying it.
                  Ortiz doesnt have the dedication to be an elite fighter. After the Peterson fight he was happy with a draw and smiling about it. Does not belong in a ring with Mayweather.

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                  • Major Motoko
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by hent
                    Ortiz doesnt have the dedication to be an elite fighter. After the Peterson fight he was happy with a draw and smiling about it. Does not belong in a ring with Mayweather.
                    Get your ******edness out my face. He went to war with Berto, so he does have the dedication and the heart to be an elite fighter. Saying otherwise would be like saying Khan doesn't have the chin to be an elite fighter, complete bull****.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Major Motoko
                      Get your ******edness out my face. He went to war with Berto, so he does have the dedication and the heart to be an elite fighter. Saying otherwise would be like saying Khan doesn't have the chin to be an elite fighter, complete bull****.
                      Come on work ethic is something Ortiz simply doesnt have. He wont even train for the Mayweather fight, he will probably retire after the payday.

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