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  • Bhopreign
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    #581
    Originally posted by daggum
    remember judges are paid by the promoter. who was the promoter? don king oh that's weird.
    You danced around the facts, have you ever seen a live fight? I have and when going and seeing that fight on tape later, sometimes it looks like a different fight. Again the judges dont have the beauty of seeing multiple angles so in this instance with a close fight you kinda gotta give the benefit of the doubt, I thought Matthysse probably should have gotten the decision but I dont think it was a robbery, which we know is an overused term.

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    • Bhopreign
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      #582
      Originally posted by Medved
      I remember u saying Kotelnik "lost" same reason Lucas "lost"

      Cant believe you support a scam artist, good luck tho, he will bring you lots of exciting fights of being a bum but aslong as he fights in STL he will never lose.

      This is why boxing makes me mad, it wasnt even a close fight and dude no way shape or form win anywhere close to 6 rounds.

      That judge needs to be taken out the back and shot.
      How can you remember when I come on here 3 times a year for about 3 hours and when also I didnt even see that whole fight, only a couple rounds, therefore I dont think I said that, you must have me confused. Proves you dont know me at all, Im not a fan of Devon Alexander, never have been, but I do bet on sports and taken into account 10 rounds and fighting in St. Louis, I chose him. I take that into account, when you do, knowing this IS boxing, it doesnt matter sometimes who really SHOULD have won.

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #583
        Originally posted by daggum
        he clearly won the 10th round. did he win it as big as the 7th or 8th no but there is no question he won it. you would have to be a madman to have alexander winning that round. alexander is the new sven ottke but with less power.
        He did not clearly win the 10th round, sure he could have won it but it was not a sure fire yea he won that round. If it came down to that I don't know how you could be that mad about the fight.

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        • PRINCE O' PROSE
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          #584
          Alexander was forced tonight to bring out the moxie and desire he'd appeared to lack against Bradley - his career was on the line and the hurtfulness of Matthyse's pressure required Devon to fight hard or be consumed.

          Although Bradley pressured Alexander, I think he largely vexed Devon into a kind of relative submission, a mental quit, whereas Lucas was putting some real hurt on, hurt that required a response from Alexander's heart more than his brain - Alexander's heart answered the call unflinchingly.



          Got to give Devon his dues, but he still lost this fight, clearly.

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          • PRINCE O' PROSE
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            #585
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            Whatever the point still stands, Matthysse dominated 3 rounds and got a knockdown, the fight could still get scored against him.

            Please use a more applicable term~
            The 'point' was piss-poor, barely defensible.

            Your posts have a nice, calm surface neutrality about them, which disguises whatever bias you have here, but biased you certainly are - otherwise, you wouldn't be striving to spin a defense of such an obvious piece of cooking. Look at the card Colon (so aptly named) had for Devon, man.



            Say what you want, the perceptive people know what's up and they can either do the honest thing and call bullshit or do the dishonest thing and try to cover it up for whatever reason (like you).

            I'm done with the thread.

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #586
              Originally posted by PRINCE O' PROSE
              The 'point' was piss-poor, barely defensible.



              Your posts have a nice, calm surface neutrality about them, which disguises whatever bias you have here, but biased you certainly are - otherwise, you wouldn't be striving to spin a defense of such an obvious piece of cooking. Look at the card Colon (so aptly named) had for Devon, man.



              Say what you want. I'm done with the thread.
              Take it however you want, that is a different way to look at this particular fight, you having an issue with a different view of the fight really says it all anyways~

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              • daggum
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                #587
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                He did not clearly win the 10th round, sure he could have won it but it was not a sure fire yea he won that round. If it came down to that I don't know how you could be that mad about the fight.
                it shouldn't have come down to that but he clearly won the round anyway just in case you gave alexander every other somewhat close round just because you love him.

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                  #588
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  it shouldn't have come down to that but he clearly won the round anyway just in case you gave alexander every other somewhat close round just because you love him.
                  But it did come down to that, if he didn't want it to come down to that it was within his power to do so~ he certainly tried and failed at that.

                  I am happy with the fight, I want to see both guys again. Alexander certainly has his flaws and he better hope his toughness holds out.

                  If you think Matthysse won fine that is fair you can certainly make that case but that doesn't change what I have said.

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                  • daggum
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                    #589
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    But it did come down to that, if he didn't want it to come down to that it was within his power to do so~ he certainly tried and failed at that.

                    I am happy with the fight, I want to see both guys again. Alexander certainly has his flaws and he better hope his toughness holds out.

                    If you think Matthysse won fine that is fair you can certainly make that case but that doesn't change what I have said.
                    only if you are an incompetent/corrupt judge. if the fight was on the table going into the 10th then mattyhse should have won since he easily won that round.

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                    • Medved
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                      #590
                      Fun Fact, Judge Denny Nelson has only judged 2 fights out of 1000's in Missouri, both Kotelnik and Tonights fight with Devon Alexander. all his other fights have been in MN and SD with some international judging (very few)
                      http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...judge&pageID=1

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