Comments Thread For: Haye: "Klitschko is Going To Get Punished and Hurt!"

[Ravens Fan]

Yes. The problem with Haye is not with his talking per se, but with the fact that he is so full of **** about his own accomplishments or lack thereof.

He's still reduced to trying to big up his pitiful performance against Valuev to people who don't know any better, who didn't see Chagaev's far superior effort against the giant. And then there's the matter of his last farcical rip-off/fixed fight with Fraudley.

If Haye is true to form, he will take the money and run, and only put up token resistance against Wlad, because as a heavyweight Haye is a fraud.

So yes, I won't be sorry to see him gone, because he's not legitimate. He's a carny huckster and con-man. Boxing has enough guys like that already.

I agree 110%. The major problem with Haye fans is that they have confused what he has actually accomplished with what he says. And I have said it and will say it again. Haye's best in his prime opponent was Enzo Mac. I mean what else needs to be said?

And say what you want about Wlad but he been fighting and beating in their prime heavyweights for the past few years and making it look easy. Haye also seems to think that he has one punch knock out power and I don't believe he even had that kind of power at CW much less as a heavyweight.

I also just watched the HBO interview with Haye and Wlad and I really do believe Wlad's pissed and I really don't believe that is a good thing for Haye, or at least not health wise.

And the last thing is what is all this absolute crap about Haye reviving and saving the heavyweight division? Newsflash most non boxing fans know about as much about Haye as they do the Klit bros. When Haye starts having the impact someone like Tyson had then come talk to me about him saving the division. I mean come on the fight isn't even on Pay per View so how much of a real impact is Haye having?

[cklmaced]

Ah when was the last time a Klit bro fight was on PPV? A long time ago cos nobody gives a **** about the fat overweight chumps they usually fight. How can you blame Haye for the fight not being on PPV when the bros haven't been on it for years. Have you seen a prime HW cos if you think most (not all) of their opponents are prime HWs then you clearly don't know what your talking about.

[nomadman]

Ah when was the last time a Klit bro fight was on PPV? A long time ago cos nobody gives a **** about the fat overweight chumps they usually fight. How can you blame Haye for the fight not being on PPV when the bros haven't been on it for years. Have you seen a prime HW cos if you think most (not all) of their opponents are prime HWs then you clearly don't know what your talking about.

Of Wlad's last ten opponents I'd say 4 were in their prime (Iggy, Chags, Eddie and Brock), four were slightly past prime (Byrd, Brewster, Peter 2 and Thompson), one was way past his prime (Rahman) and one may or may not have been in his prime (Ray Austin).

It's not a murderer's row, but it sure beats the hell out of the five dead bodies Haye has fought thus far.

[cklmaced]

Of Wlad's last ten opponents I'd say 4 were in their prime (Iggy, Chags, Eddie and Brock), four were slightly past prime (Byrd, Brewster, Peter 2 and Thompson), one was way past his prime (Rahman) and one may or may not have been in his prime (Ray Austin).

It's not a murderer's row, but it sure beats the hell out of the five dead bodies Haye has fought thus far.

OMG still not getting it those fighters wouldn't even be fighting for titles in any other era. They are mostly chumps with no speed or power or anything really and don't bother show they KO% against fellow bums. Haye may not have the best HW record but its pretty obvious he is the most talented fighter Wlad will ever face. Wlad can only beat what is put in front of him but it doesn't change the fact that the fighters he has faced all lacked any real talent.

[Ravens Fan]

Ah when was the last time a Klit bro fight was on PPV? A long time ago cos nobody gives a **** about the fat overweight chumps they usually fight. How can you blame Haye for the fight not being on PPV when the bros haven't been on it for years. Have you seen a prime HW cos if you think most (not all) of their op.onents are prime HWs then you clearly don't know what your talking about.

Well, excuse me I thought that the savior of the heavyweight division would at least warrant a pay per view event. But, I guess reality set in when everyone watched Haye fight and figured out what I already have. And that is that he is way more bark then bite.

And I will still say that other than Rahman most of Wlad's opponents were younger then him and rated in Rings top ten. And other than Rahman who was fat? I mean come even Peter came in at 240 pounds.

And as someone has already stated Wlad's opponents are light years better than Haye's. So, I guess as the savior of the division Haye meant he was going to start cleaning out the division at high end with opponents rated in the 25 to 50 range and work his way down to the top 10.

And I will say it again the best in his prime fighter Haye has faced was Enzo Mac and that ain't saying much. Hell even a very old Italian who did not even start fighting as a pro until after his 30th birthday gave Haye fits.

So, to me not only is his heavyweight career overrated his entire career also happens to be slightly overrated. Jeez, he was CW champ for two whole rounds. Wow, how impressive is that? And if you listen to Haye fans one might believe he dominated the division for a decade before he moved up.

[cklmaced]

Well, excuse me I thought that the savior of the heavyweight division would at least warrant a pay per view event. But, I guess reality set in when everyone watched Haye fight and figured out what I already have. And that is that he is way more bark then bite.

And I will still say that other than Rahman most of Wlad's opponents were younger then him and rated in Rings top ten. And other than Rahman who was fat? I mean come even Peter came in at 240 pounds.

And as someone has already stated Wlad's opponents are light years better than Haye's. So, I guess as the savior of the division Haye meant he was going to start cleaning out the division at high end with opponents rated in the 25 to 50 range and work his way down to the top 10.

And I will say it again the best in his prime fighter Haye has faced was Enzo Mac and that ain't saying much. Hell even a very old Italian who did not even start fighting as a pro until after his 30th birthday gave Haye fits.

So, to me not only is his heavyweight career overrated his entire career also happens to be slightly overrated. Jeez, he was CW champ for two whole rounds. Wow, how impressive is that? And if you listen to Haye fans one might believe he dominated the division for a decade before he moved up.

Actually he is PPV in the UK its Wlad who isn't PPV in Germany or the US. Who cares if they were in the Ring top ten they have to have somebody there. The fact that Haye won a HW title so quickly in his 3rd fight shows how weak the division is.

[nomadman]

OMG still not getting it those fighters wouldn't even be fighting for titles in any other era. They are mostly chumps with no speed or power or anything really and don't bother show they KO% against fellow bums. Haye may not have the best HW record but its pretty obvious he is the most talented fighter Wlad will ever face. Wlad can only beat what is put in front of him but it doesn't change the fact that the fighters he has faced all lacked any real talent.

Of the fighters he's faced and beaten I'd say the following had talent to match Haye: Iggy, Chags, Chambers, Byrd. All four fighters had speed. Iggy and Chags were amateur standouts (Chags beat Savon twice). Byrd had already beaten Vitali, Tua and Holyfield before he fought Wlad. He'll also most likely enter the HOF at some point in the future.

Haye's performances in the HW division thus far have not been impressive enough to warrant the plaudits he receives either due to the manner of his win (Valuev) or the quality of his opponents (everyone else). He might well be head and shoulders more talented than any of the fighters above, though given a common opponent in Valuev, whom Chags also beat, and more convincingly, I'd say that answer is no.

[nomadman]

Actually he is PPV in the UK its Wlad who isn't PPV in Germany or the US. Who cares if they were in the Ring top ten they have to have somebody there. The fact that Haye won a HW title so quickly in his 3rd fight shows how weak the division is.

Or how corrupt the division is. Or how crap Valuev is.

[Ravens Fan]

Actually he is PPV in the UK its Wlad who isn't PPV in Germany or the US. Who cares if they were in the Ring top ten they have to have somebody there. The fact that Haye won a HW title so quickly in his 3rd fight shows how weak the division is.

I guess there have been plenty of weak divisions because in case you haven't noticed countless fighters have been moving up and winning fights with their first fight within particular division. And I will say that there is no doubt that the division is on the weak side but that is nothing new. The heavyweights have been rather weak since the day Ali got old. Yet some how Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson made into the Hall of Fame when in reality most of, if not all of, the opponents they beat were really no better then who the Klit brothers have been fighting. And I believe if the Klit bros were not on the scene we would have had fighters such as Thompson, Povetkin, Arreola and Chambers trading alphabet titles much like Pinklon Thomas, Tim Witherspoon and Tony Tucker did back before Tyson arrived on the scene. And after watching David Haye fight at heavyweight I don't necessary believe that he is the best opponent Wlad has faced. I just believe that he happens to be the loudest.

[LoveForBoxing]

Well, excuse me I thought that the savior of the heavyweight division would at least warrant a pay per view event. But, I guess reality set in when everyone watched Haye fight and figured out what I already have. And that is that he is way more bark then bite.

And I will still say that other than Rahman most of Wlad's opponents were younger then him and rated in Rings top ten. And other than Rahman who was fat? I mean come even Peter came in at 240 pounds.

And as someone has already stated Wlad's opponents are light years better than Haye's. So, I guess as the savior of the division Haye meant he was going to start cleaning out the division at high end with opponents rated in the 25 to 50 range and work his way down to the top 10.

And I will say it again the best in his prime fighter Haye has faced was Enzo Mac and that ain't saying much. Hell even a very old Italian who did not even start fighting as a pro until after his 30th birthday gave Haye fits.

So, to me not only is his heavyweight career overrated his entire career also happens to be slightly overrated. Jeez, he was CW champ for two whole rounds. Wow, how impressive is that? And if you listen to Haye fans one might believe he dominated the division for a decade before he moved up.

This is on ppv in England and is being touted 1 million plus buys already so i guess it's quite an avent..