Respect James Toney Bitches!

[Leo Pradun]

This is something you think, not something you know.

And it's no coincidence what you think coinsides with you being a giant Klitschko cheerleader.

Again, while he'd surely be at a disadvantage, there's been nothing that's ever happened that warrents Toney being written off in those fights.

Klitschko is not Dominick Guinn, he woul rip Toney apart from the outisde..
Toney doesnt have a punch....

[Bozo_no no]

Klitschko is not Dominick Guinn, he woul rip Toney apart from the outisde..
Toney doesnt have a punch....

And James Toney isn't Corrie Sanders, Danny Williams, Kirk Johnson, or Larry Donald.

No one's saying Toney would be a favorite, but he's a hall of fame fighter who's one of the best of this generation.

There's no reason he should be so easilly written off.

[tino]

i love to see toney fight , as bozo stated before if youre a real lover of the sweet science you HAVE to enjoy toney skills .

but i dont think he could do anything against both klitschko . maybe wladimir , but vitaly , no way , he just uses his size too well .

[Truth]

Bozo no no, I agree JT is the man no doubt...

[Run]

maybe wladimir , but vitaly , no way , he just uses his size too well .

I think its the opposite way around. Vitali is akward and does not have a fragment of Wladimir's skill. Toney would bait him and counterpunch him all night long. Barring he could survive the heavy punches I think Toney would win a decision over Vitali.

I think Toney would get next to murdered against Wlad though.



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[riz]

I'll start out by saying: I don't see how anyone can dislike what James Toney does in the ring, and call themselves a boxing fan. And what Toney does in the ring is showcase technique and skill that's virtually uparalleled in the sport of boxing today.



Everyone knows that Toney's a former middleweight and pound for pound fighter who's won titles at 160, 168 and Cruiser, but there's been ongoing criticism about his tenure at Heavyweight.

From accusations of fighting poor opposition (laughable when you look at who the "title" holders have been fighting) to talk of him being a steroid monkey or a fatso.

The bottom line is that James Toney is a Hall of Fame fighter who's right in the thick of things in the current Heavyweight division.




After delivering Evander Holyfield a one sided and calculated beating, Toney has suffered from some bad injuries, but had returned to beat down and shut out previously undefeated Rydell Booker, and on 5 weeks notice humiliated and out pointed the limited yet ever present John Ruiz. After being stripped of his title because the medication he was on for his arm injury produced an illegal substance when he agreed to fight Ruiz on 5 weeks notice, Toney eyed a return to the ring in early October. With almost no top Heavyweight being available, Toney targeted the durable yet limited Guinn. As poor as Guinn had looked in losses to Barrett and Lyakhovich and a lackluster draw against Friday Ahunanya, he was always in those fights and very competitive. It wasn't long before that that the destruction of Michael Grant and thumping the mammoth Duncan Dokiwari had a lot of buzz around Guinn.

But in the ring against James Toney, a much naturally smaller and older man who gave up height, power and reach, Guinn was taken to school and humiliated.



In a lackluster Heavyweight division that's universally recognized as one of the low spots in it's history, James Toney put on a clinic of inside fighting, counter punching, and made a durable and hard hitting Heavyweight look like a sparring partner.

The bottom line is that if you have anything to say about a 37 year old future hall of famer James Toney campaigning at Heavyweight that's anything short of bewilderment and admiration, you're an idiot and not a true fan of the sport.

How would Toney fair against the likes of the Klitschko’s or Valuev giving away an almost ridiculous figures in height and reach? I don’t know, but having never seen Toney in any trouble, knowing his ability to slip and counter, and knowing he’s a fighter who’s strongest in rounds 10-12, I wouldn’t right him off in any of those fights.

As fat and old as James Toney is, he's unequivocally a top five Heavyweight at present, and a credible and top money fight for anyone in the division.

He’s called out Chris Byrd and Vitali Klitschko, and there’s no reason those fights can’t happen next.

So in conclusion, show some respect and give some props bitches. I shutter to think there was a bunch of idiots calling Archie Moore a fat “non Heavyweight” in the 1950’s. You’re watching a future hall of famer impressing and excelling at the end of his historic career.

he hasn't proved to me yet a legit HW contendor... even though he probably is
holyfield (meh)
booker (who?)
ruiz (didn't win by a lot, still a couple of points)
guinn (finsiihed)

i wana c him take on sum1 legit man, like brewster at least. some1 in the top 5-10

[Bozo_no no]

he hasn't proved to me yet a legit HW contendor...

But a guy like Vitali has?

With wins over Larry Donald, Corrie Sanders, Danny Williams...


You're exactly the type of idiot that needs to give their head a shake.

Toney is a top 5 Heavweight among 4 other guys who are also very inactive with poor resumes.

[tino]

I think its the opposite way around. Vitali is akward and does not have a fragment of Wladimir's skill. Toney would bait him and counterpunch him all night long. Barring he could survive the heavy punches I think Toney would win a decision over Vitali.

I think Toney would get next to murdered against Wlad though.

i get your points , and yes W is the more skilled but he freezes when hit and i think toney counter punching may put him into a defensive shell en route to a a UD for toney .

on the other hand , vitaly has lower skills (he in fact has a feet position of a kickboxer) but he keeps shorter guys at bay very well , with those "jab then push " , and i doubt toney will be able to get inside

[tino]

But a guy like Vitali has?

With wins over Larry Donald, Corrie Sanders, Danny Williams...


You're exactly the type of idiot that needs to give their head a shake.

Toney is a top 5 Heavweight among 4 other guys who are also very inactive with poor resumes.

woa calm down man we are just talking boxing

[Moon]

Toney doesn't belong at Heavy, end of story. He hasn't done anything notable at Heavy to warrant the respect of any boxing fan. Sure, you can't dis the guy's accomplishments in the 90's and he's definitely bound for the Hall, but Toney's portfolio at heavier (oops, I mean "blown up") weights is not exactly the stuff of kings.

Beating up on Danny Green, tapping on Jirov, smacking around an old Evander, and beating Guinn? Get real. Once he's accomplished something vaguely similar to his work in the 90's, maybe then he'll get some real attention from fans or the Hall.

Trouble is ...... Toney is too small, despite all his other great technical attributes.