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  • Rip Chudd
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    #11
    Originally posted by puga
    first of all, i dont see floyd testing as a better testing at all...how?...im pretty sure you know what happened in the shane vs floyd testing where USADA said "if theres a cutt off , it is pointless.....having said that, arum exposed that they had an 18 day cut off....and when they got caught, the only excuse they could come up with was " there was no need to test any further becuase both werent doing anything su****ious and that both tid'nt know when to test....both were load of crap....
    Yeah i'm aware of what happened. I'm not going to pretend I know what all goes on with the actual testing that USADA does. If they did the testing and through all of that didn't see any abnormalities in any of the guys samples and decided not to test again until after the fight then ok. They stopped taking blood samples but didn't stop the urine testing. Did Shane and Floyd know they were gonna stop testing at 18 days? No. So in saying that, it would still prevent them from doing anything because USADA could still show up at any time and get a blood sample. Now I will say that I think Mayweather's reason for him saying he wants better testing is straight up bullcrap. If he just came out and said "I want Pac to take the tests cause I believe he's on something" then I would understand. But to say "I'm doing it cause I think it's right and better for the sport" is just downright bull. You and I both know it.

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    • puga
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      #12
      Originally posted by Rip Chudd
      Yeah i'm aware of what happened. I'm not going to pretend I know what all goes on with the actual testing that USADA does. If they did the testing and through all of that didn't see any abnormalities in any of the guys samples and decided not to test again until after the fight then ok. They stopped taking blood samples but didn't stop the urine testing. Did Shane and Floyd know they were gonna stop testing at 18 days? No. So in saying that, it would still prevent them from doing anything because USADA could still show up at any time and get a blood sample. Now I will say that I think Mayweather's reason for him saying he wants better testing is straight up bullcrap. If he just came out and said "I want Pac to take the tests cause I believe he's on something" then I would understand. But to say "I'm doing it cause I think it's right and better for the sport" is just downright bull. You and I both know it.
      also, they said urine testing was not enough but they did'nt blootests anyway...so what made the usada so sure that shane and floyd did'nt use anything at that window?....remebr , they dont believ urine is enough.., the way they handled it was so fishy to me its biased...these kinds of agannciee is what the boxing does'nt need really..there is so much BS already...one more reason why it is unncesary is because everybody else is ok with the current but floyd....nah what i mean....i agree with the bold.

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      • pbmike
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        #13
        Originally posted by Rip Chudd
        Yeah i'm aware of what happened. I'm not going to pretend I know what all goes on with the actual testing that USADA does. If they did the testing and through all of that didn't see any abnormalities in any of the guys samples and decided not to test again until after the fight then ok. They stopped taking blood samples but didn't stop the urine testing. Did Shane and Floyd know they were gonna stop testing at 18 days? No. So in saying that, it would still prevent them from doing anything because USADA could still show up at any time and get a blood sample. Now I will say that I think Mayweather's reason for him saying he wants better testing is straight up bullcrap. If he just came out and said "I want Pac to take the tests cause I believe he's on something" then I would understand. But to say "I'm doing it cause I think it's right and better for the sport" is just downright bull. You and I both know it.

        you have no clue blood testing is better because it can pick something up b/c what ever you use it will be in the blood.urine its not the same case.and they did the testing to make sure they are not on drugs so if i tell you ima give you a drug test will you use drugs 2 days prior to the test. of course not you dont want to get cought.And im not sure how true your statement is about they stoped testing.kinda sure thats a lie. and 18 day cut off does make a difference instead of 2 months you only got 18 days so you wont be as fast as strong also you might not make weight.feel like they should be no cutoff but thats not my decision. But to say "I'm doing it cause I think it's right and better for the sport" is just downright bull are you joking or just dumb...? Floyd knows there mannnyyyyyyyy boxers that use p.e.d thats why hes doing this doniare,ortiz,benard,pac and the list goes on and on. and why will ortiz take this fight if i offer you 5 mill to fight floyd would you? also if i offer you a few million dollar fights if you use p.e.d and you wont get caught would you? of course you and i both know that.
        Last edited by pbmike; 06-22-2011, 02:25 PM.

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        • JDezi4
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          #14
          Originally posted by suicidemachine
          hey ******. Random testing isnt used to catch cheats neccesarily. Its random to aid in its ability to deter. So the last test was 18 days. Doesnt mean it might not have been day of fight. Point is they dont know.
          pwned........

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