Canelo: The young prodigy

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  • dutchschaffer
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    #11
    Good shout -Kev-. I'm a massive Cotto fan but all this talk about the lad ONLY being 20...

    If you got it, you got it. Stick him in with Cotto or someone bigger, Alvarez would stand toe to toe. And even if he lost his belt, he'd certainly learn from the experience AND be young enough to bounce back!
    Just my opinion, take it, or leave ;op

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    • AntonTheMeh
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      #12
      Nice write up of him, but you didn't have to call this "Canelo: The Young Prodigy" since the term Prodigy usually assumes youth.

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      • Cuauhtémoc1520
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        #13
        Originally posted by AntonTheGreat
        Nice write up of him, but you didn't have to call this "Canelo: The Young Prodigy" since the term Prodigy usually assumes youth.
        True............I'm not perfect man.

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        • -Kev-
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          #14
          Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
          I would say something back but this is self destruction right there, I almost spit out my water.



          Yea I agree, I mean there's a reason people are so high on this kid. I'm not saying he's a great fighter but the calm he shows is something that can't be taught. When he fights it's looks like he's 15 years in the game, seriously. That is what most impresses me.

          They are really schooling this kid very well in Mexico. His trainers are doing a phenomenal job and his improvement from fight to fight is impressive.

          I do think there was something wrong with his defense because even looking at the Cotto fight, you could see he wasn't moving his head at all. Then he fights Rhodes, a good puncher and he was constantly moving his head and keeping his back off the ropes.
          I agree with you, big improvements in just one year.

          He's a fast learner and he's growing really fast, he genuinely grew out 147 real quick, you can tell because of how shredded he is at 154, it would be crazy to think he can make 147.

          Lol BTW I am just being sarcastic about him fighting the best right now. 38 pro fights, but the majority are against poor opposition. I am all for letting the guy grow.

          Even Chavez Jr at 24 or 25 years old, whatever, with 43-0, he's not ready for the best.

          I mean let's take JJC Sr at 38-0, was he ready for Pernell Whitaker, or Meldrick Taylor? He wasn't, and I see that's the style that Canelo and Chavez Jr are being brought with, which is pad the record up, build the fighter up, let them learn slowly, build the fanbase, and honestly, i'm 100% ok with that. Although at 38-0, JCC Sr was also a whole different fighter than Alvarez and Jr.

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          • Cuauhtémoc1520
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            #15
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            I agree with you, big improvements in just one year.

            He's a fast learner and he's growing really fast, he genuinely grew out 147 real quick, you can tell because of how shredded he is at 154, it would be crazy to think he can make 147.

            Lol BTW I am just being sarcastic about him fighting the best right now. 38 pro fights, but the majority are against poor opposition. I am all for letting the guy grow.

            Even Chavez Jr at 24 or 25 years old, whatever, with 43-0, he's not ready for the best.

            I mean let's take JJC Sr at 38-0, was he ready for Pernell Whitaker, or Meldrick Taylor? He wasn't, and I see that's the style that Canelo and Chavez Jr are being brought with, which is pad the record up, build the fighter up, let them learn slowly, build the fanbase, and honestly, i'm 100% ok with that. Although at 38-0, JCC Sr was also a whole different fighter than Alvarez and Jr.
            That's the Mexican way though and it's not so much to pad up the record as it is to stay active.I agree, Canelo isn't ready for the best of the best but in a couple of fights he will be a different fighter IMO.

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            • Walt Liquor
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              #16
              Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
              I would say something back but this is self destruction right there, I almost spit out my water.



              Yea I agree, I mean there's a reason people are so high on this kid. I'm not saying he's a great fighter but the calm he shows is something that can't be taught. When he fights it's looks like he's 15 years in the game, seriously. That is what most impresses me.

              They are really schooling this kid very well in Mexico. His trainers are doing a phenomenal job and his improvement from fight to fight is impressive.

              I do think there was something wrong with his defense because even looking at the Cotto fight, you could see he wasn't moving his head at all. Then he fights Rhodes, a good puncher and he was constantly moving his head and keeping his back off the ropes.
              he trained for this fight in BIg Bear and got most of his sparring from Golovkin... everyone says this was his best camp yet

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              • fceeviper
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                #17
                Originally posted by Konstantin
                I'm looking forward to see how Canelo's future shapes up.
                Same here.

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                • Iamanidiot
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  He has 38 pro fights. He already has more experience than Sugar Ray Leonard had in his whole career. Doesn't matter who they fought pro is pro, and Canelo has 38 pro fights. Alvarez is one of the most experienced top 10 JMW's right now.


                  If Miguel Cotto wants a fight with Alvarez, he'll have to get a few more fights to catch up to Alvarez's 38 pro fights.


                  Paul Williams and Antonio Margarito are good candidates.
                  Amatuer career makes a big difference.

                  Something Alvarez and Chavez Jr don't have.

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                  • -Johannes-
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Los Blancos
                    Amatuer career makes a big difference.

                    Something Alvarez and Chavez Jr don't have.
                    It's true, you can't compare Leonard's great amateur experience to Alvarez' national bouts as an amateur. I think Canelo did have some amateur fights but they're a little bit of them.
                    In the Amateurs, you learn to deal with pressure that comes from different aspects of the sport. You learn about defeats, about yourself and different boxing styles as well as tricks you can pick up. Sparring helps but it's not the same, as sparring is designed to work on certain things. At the pros you either have to be well prepared for the game or have natural born talent, otherwise your going to get you ass beat.

                    If you say that Canelo has more experience than Leonard, it's not different than claiming Rigondeux is a novice to the sport.

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                    • King Ju-Ju
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                      #20
                      canelo is good. i know he is young but with his domination of stiffs and tremendous hype surrounding him, gbp is gonna have to throw him into the fire real soon. i wanna see him fight a top guy at 154.

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