Who is the best Heavyweight of the past 30 years?

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  • jimmy1569
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    #111
    Well those are the the top 7 from 1980 - to present.. Most intimidating = Iron Mike.... Most potential = Rid**** Bowe... Most Heart = Real Deal Holyfield Most fundamentals = Larry Holmes Most Impressive = Lennox Lewis Most Precision = Wladimir Klitschko


    Most Dominant & Most ALL AROUND skills = Vitali Klitschko..... he's the only one from the 7 that has everything all the others have on this list.... you could make a case for him being the most intimidating ( his size alone & demeanor)... most potential (seeing how injuries have stagnated his career)... Heart.... anyone seeing him fight on looking like Freddy Kreuger's worst nightmare with eyeskin daNGLING out vs Lewis & then also taking out the fighters who gave his little brother a shellacking<<< "nuff said.. fundamentals... he's got all the skills on defense & on offense ( this includes body control & movement) One can say he's the most impressive..., when you KO & win rds at the highest percentage in heavyweight boxing history.. something tells me that's being more impressive than anyone else. As for precision... Vitali lands more punches on his opponents than they do on him & has the highest discrepancy in heavyweight history of hitting & NOT being hit... SIMPLY PUT VITALI klitschko has the highest BER (BOXER EFFICIENCY RATING) in the ENTIRE history of the sport bar none..... what was my answer again?
    Last edited by jimmy1569; 06-20-2011, 04:35 PM.

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    • nomadman
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      #112
      Originally posted by Money Shot
      Rahman and Byrd, are you serious? He had to fight Johnson in the eliminator after Lewis and then Sanders for the belt, then Danny Williams, altho it was supposed to be Mike Tyson obviously. Rahman and Byrd, lol. Wlad smashed them up anyway.
      He pulled out of a fight with Rahman four times, then retired for four years. Sounds like ducking to me.

      As for Byrd, well he lost to him. So why didn't he rematch him?

      And what does Wlad have to do with anything?

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        #113
        Originally posted by musiol
        holyfields took the tests period!!!!!for the record holyfields resume ****s on lewis a put lewis above him due to his long reign
        Yes he did, but everyone and their dog knows that he was a juicer at some point in his career, if not for the majority of it. Only the very naive or the very delusional deny this. You simply don't hire Lee Haney to help you formulate protein shakes.

        Just for the record, by the way, I don't give a crap one way or the other. I rate Holy extremely highly as a fighter. But not higher than Lewis.

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          #114
          Originally posted by [KLTP]
          I picked Lennox. He's virtually undefeated, and fought everybody.
          Lennox stayed out of the states until the good heavy weights were past prime

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          • Money Shot
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            #115
            Originally posted by It's Ovah
            He pulled out of a fight with Rahman four times, then retired for four years. Sounds like ducking to me.

            As for Byrd, well he lost to him. So why didn't he rematch him?

            And what does Wlad have to do with anything?


            Mate, he was up 88-83, 88-83 and 89-82 on the judges' cards vs Byrd when the shoulder went. I know you are at the wind up and accept Lewis is a chicken and a dirty fighter, but don't want to admit it. It's cool. Interesting that Vit retired due to that same shoulder, but came back an even better fighter four years later. Semi retirement eh?

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            • Spit Venom
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              #116
              The Baddest Man on the Planet.

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                #117
                Originally posted by JoeyZagz
                Wrong again. Kirk Johnson was not for a title, just a walkover match like Ovah said.


                ****sideboxing article from 2003:



                I doubt Lennox was even training for Kirk Johnson. He was very lazy and disinterested at that point of his career. On two weeks notice Lennox got an opponent who was a half foot taller with a 95% ko ratio.

                It was fair for both sides.
                I will not debate this thing as it has been done to death, but you are not seriously suggesting that Lummox was preparing for a non-title fight?


                And regarding training I'm quite sure Lummox had had a rigorous camp in Canada if I'm not mistaken.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by [KLTP]
                  He avenged both of those loses, and yes I've seen the fight. Sure Bowe won the first round, but Lewis has always been a slow starter. After that Lewis destroyed him. Like I said, there's a reason why Bowe was ducking Lewis. He knew once Lewis stepped it up, that was a wrap.

                  Also, BTW Ruben. Name Holmes's best win.
                  Hmmm yeah you either haven't seen the fight or can't comprehend what you watch.

                  Ken Norton...a big difference is that Holmes never got clocked by sub-par fighters in his prime, unlike someone, LL was a good fighter, a near great, he just shouldn't be defined as an ATG and given the ranking most do of him.

                  Originally posted by [KLTP]
                  Did I ask you? I asked Ruben. Just great, now Ruben is gonna say an ignorant response. Thanks for ruining the fun.
                  LOL at this ****ing joke who thinks Khoasai Galaxy and Michael Moorer are better southpaws than Manny Pacquiao.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by It's Ovah
                    He pulled out of a fight with Rahman four times, then retired for four years. Sounds like ducking to me.

                    As for Byrd, well he lost to him. So why didn't he rematch him?

                    And what does Wlad have to do with anything?
                    He lets the petty fighters he doesn't feel are a threat to him & has Wlad close out there careers. The ones he feels are too tough for his brother to beat like Sanders & Purrity.. he takes care of.,.as for Peter.. he just wanted to show Wlad how it's done & let Wlad finish him for himself..... & since Brewster won by Magic THE FIRST time.. he allowed Wlad to set him sTRAIGHT on his own.. as for Lennox... we all know Vitali is still in the corner waiting to commence rd 7..

                    Vitali decides who & whom he NEEDS to lay down the law with & lets Wlad hammer the ones he can't be bothered with>>> kapish!

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Money Shot
                      Mate, he was up 88-83, 88-83 and 89-82 on the judges' cards vs Byrd when the shoulder went. I know you are at the wind up and accept Lewis is a chicken and a dirty fighter, but don't want to admit it. It's cool.
                      I accept no such thing. Will you accept this though?

                      Lennox Lewis TKO 6 Vitali Klitschko

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