Who is the best Heavyweight of the past 30 years?

[musiol]

Vitali. he has lost 5 ROUNDS in his entire career, he hasnt been beaten by anyone, only when ref stopped fight against Lewis and when shoulder injury. He was whooping both of them on the score card. I laugh when people say Lewis is better, Lewis ran away and retired, he was getting owned 4-2 on scorecards when fight was stopped.

Think about it, a HW fighter that has never been defeated legitly and lost 5 rounds in his career.

4-2 is hardly getting owned is it???vitali face looked like he was getting owned ,the fight had to be stopped regardless due to vitalis piss poor defence that night if he had fought more wisley he would of stopped lewis late due to the fact lewis was in the worst shape ive ever seen,vitali quit v byrd his heart at that time wasnt up for it ffs danny williams kod a guy with a dislocated shoulder,

[The_Demon]

Holmes followed closely by Holyfield/Lewis.big lols at people who are saying vitali-his resume is fucking awful compared too the rest of the guys

[Medved]

Holmes followed closely by Holyfield/Lewis.big lols at people who are saying vitali-his resume is fucking awful compared too the rest of the guys

People like to overblow History, they think just because it happened in 1960's/70's that fighters were amazing, its always been the same. Its a joke that you put someone like Holyfield/Lewis above Vitali, Lewis ducked and retired after lucky stoppage against Vitali, even his trainer said Vitali deserved a rematch but Lewis wanted no part of it. Name me another HW boxer who has lost less than 5 rounds.

and quitting against Byrd? look at the scorecards byrd won 1 round, lol.

[Medved]

Punchstats Total Punches Lewis Klitschko
Landed 102 156
Thrown 222 432
Pct. 46% 36%
Jabs Lewis Klitschko
Landed 52 77
Thrown 120 240
Pct. 43% 32%
Power Punches Lewis Klitschko
Landed 50 79
Thrown 102 192
Pct. 49% 41%

Lewis should no way be ranked higher than Vitali, thats a joke. People like to think fighters used to be amazing and somehow the "Hw" division was utopia of great fights, it was same as today, a few guys dominating bums. People just like to cling on to the past. Like look at all the Rocky Marciano nuthuggers, ooo he beatup a bunch of drunks and bums 50 times a year while Mob was fixing all the fights, GOAT!!!

[musiol]

Vitali. he has lost 5 ROUNDS in his entire career, he hasnt been beaten by anyone, only when ref stopped fight against Lewis and when shoulder injury. He was whooping both of them on the score card. I laugh when people say Lewis is better, Lewis ran away and retired, he was getting owned 4-2 on scorecards when fight was stopped.

Think about it, a HW fighter that has never been defeated legitly and lost 5 rounds in his career.

Punchstats Total Punches Lewis Klitschko
Landed 102 156
Thrown 222 432
Pct. 46% 36%
Jabs Lewis Klitschko
Landed 52 77
Thrown 120 240
Pct. 43% 32%
Power Punches Lewis Klitschko
Landed 50 79
Thrown 102 192
Pct. 49% 41%

Lewis should no way be ranked higher than Vitali, thats a joke. People like to think fighters used to be amazing and somehow the "Hw" division was utopia of great fights, it was same as today, a few guys dominating bums. People just like to cling on to the past. Like look at all the Rocky Marciano nuthuggers, ooo he beatup a bunch of drunks and bums 50 times a year while Mob was fixing all the fights, GOAT!!!

vitali has beaten no one with any pedigree not his fault but he had a great chance but blew it v lewis as for the byrd fight why quit when their was like 3rounds to go or something and your a mile ahead *****.vitlai domanates the punch stats v lewis but who cares VITALI 1000 lol stitches LEWIS 0 a hate lewis but cant be ***d with guys beefing the klits,a put lewis ahead of ma fav fighter holyfield cause a can man up and take it unlike klit lovers

[Las Vegas,]

He got knocked out by 2 sub-par fighters.

It doesn't matter if he fought everybody, his best win is a past-it Holyfield.

Have you even seen the amateur fight?

He avenged both of those loses, and yes I've seen the fight. Sure Bowe won the first round, but Lewis has always been a slow starter. After that Lewis destroyed him. Like I said, there's a reason why Bowe was ducking Lewis. He knew once Lewis stepped it up, that was a wrap.

Also, BTW Ruben. Name Holmes's best win.

[Medved]

He avenged both of those loses, and yes I've seen the fight. Sure Bowe won the first round, but Lewis has always been a slow starter. After that Lewis destroyed him. Like I said, there's a reason why Bowe was ducking Lewis. He knew once Lewis stepped it up, that was a wrap.

Why was Lewis ducking Vitali? Even Emanuel said he owed him a rematch. Was Lewis happy with a gift win? or did he know who was the better fighter and didnt want another loss on his record?

[Las Vegas,]

Why was Lewis ducking Vitali? Even Emanuel said he owed him a rematch. Was Lewis happy with a gift win? or did he know who was the better fighter and didnt want another loss on his record?

Gift win? What caused the cut? Wasn't a headbutt that's for sure, and not only that but Lewis was turning it on too.

[Medved]

Gift win? What caused the cut? Wasn't a headbutt that's for sure, and not only that but Lewis was turning it on too.

Vitali wanted to fight, everyone wanted to fight, wasnt that bad of a cut, Vitali was up 4 rounds to 2. Lewis never beat Vitali, he got a gift from the ref. Why did he duck the rematch after he said he would give a rematch like a man? Why did he duck him and retire if he won the fight? He always got a rematch when he lost, why didnt he give the same curtosy? Even today Steward talks about how he was mad with Lewis for not being a man and giving a rematch.

Truth is, Vitali hasnt been beaten legitly and has lost around 5 ROUNDS in his entire career while maintaining a high ko %.

Yea he's such a BUM! If he fought in the 60/70's with those bums it wouldnt have been close unless they cheated by injecting drugs into his water or fixing the fight.

I dont see how you rate someone who has been dominant for so long who hasnt given up more than 5 rounds in his life against fighters in 60's/70's who fought drunks in fixed Mafia fights.

People always think that people were better 60 or 70 years ago, but they werent. Its always like that, nostalgic past. Like Kids will be growing up thinking Jerry West or Bill Walton were these amazing players, lol. Just like in 60 years people will say LeBron was so crazy good, but he wasnt, just a bum who plays for 3 quarters.

All thruout History it hasnt been the best who have won, its the people who write the books. You think half the stuff in History books is true with their Heros? Half of it is BS that the winners of the War/Authors wrote to make them look good.

Thats why people need to speak the truth. Theres clowns in here who are saying Marciano would own the HW division if he was alive today, when he fought bums and drunks his entire career.

[musiol]

He avenged both of those loses, and yes I've seen the fight. Sure Bowe won the first round, but Lewis has always been a slow starter. After that Lewis destroyed him. Like I said, there's a reason why Bowe was ducking Lewis. He knew once Lewis stepped it up, that was a wrap.

Also, BTW Ruben. Name Holmes's best win.

Vitali wanted to fight, everyone wanted to fight, wasnt that bad of a cut, Vitali was up 4 rounds to 2. Lewis never beat Vitali, he got a gift from the ref. Why did he duck the rematch after he said he would give a rematch like a man? Why did he duck him and retire if he won the fight? He always got a rematch when he lost, why didnt he give the same curtosy? Even today Steward talks about how he was mad with Lewis for not being a man and giving a rematch.

Truth is, Vitali hasnt been beaten legitly and has lost around 5 ROUNDS in his entire career while maintaining a high ko %.

Yea he's such a BUM! If he fought in the 60/70's with those bums it wouldnt have been close unless they cheated by injecting drugs into his water or fixing the fight.

I dont see how you rate someone who has been dominant for so long who hasnt given up more than 5 rounds in his life against fighters in 60's/70's who fought drunks in fixed Mafia fights.

People always think that people were better 60 or 70 years ago, but they werent. Its always like that, nostalgic past. Like Kids will be growing up thinking Jerry West or Bill Walton were these amazing players, lol. Just like in 60 years people will say LeBron was so crazy good, but he wasnt, just a bum who plays for 3 quarters.

All thruout History it hasnt been the best who have won, its the people who write the books. You think half the stuff in History books is true with their Heros? Half of it is BS that the winners of the War/Authors wrote to make them look good.

Thats why people need to speak the truth. Theres clowns in here who are saying Marciano would own the HW division if he was alive today, when he fought bums and drunks his entire career.

a think your drunk with tunnel vision and only see and beleive what u want to.