James Toney VS. Wladimir Klitschko

[Parodius]

****ing ridiculous, I'm not going to come to your house and point it out to you. If you seriously have recently seen the fight and still say that Toney was never stunned in that fight then that's your ****ing problem, you're just biased. I'm not saying that Toney is a bad fighter, but comparing Wlad's and Jirov's power is just ****ing ******. Wlad is taller, heavier, and hits harder than anyone Toney has ever faced, on top of being technically sound. Again, watch the ****ing fight.

I watched the ****ing fight, what the **** is wrong with you, why you keep telling me to watch the fight. I think you need to watch the fight again. Then tell me when Toney was in trouble, because I never saw Toney being trouble in that fight. If Wlad takes 400 clean punches by Toney, he will go down hard. The guy chin is no good, every time Peter landed a punch on him he went down or was pushed hard into the ropes & those were not perfect punches by Peter. If Toney lands the way he did on Guinn, Wlad will be knocked out. Wlad skills is good for a big guy, but I don't see his skills helping him against Toney.

[hollister]

Please look up Afrika (with the correct spelling with a K and not a C)

then look up Tribesmen

Then look up Tribe

insult ? how is it a insult to uplift my people ? how is it a insult to become one with my people ? ya know its funny when mexicans call themselves aztecs i don't hear you complaining about it....but the truth of the matter is that most aztec tribes were of afrikan origin

don't begin to try and school me on my people..........

as for insult ? well please read up on how every Afrikan from every part of the globe is welcomed when they go to Ghana...Nigeria etc etc with open arms read up before you say i insult my people.......

I am We.......

For one, how did I spell it? Look at your ****ing quote and see how I spelled it. Insult? How about claiming to be a part of all the hardships Afrikan residents have to endure when you've never stepped foot in Afrika? As far as the Aztecs, it's the same thing. You're either really a part of it or you're not, and if you're not then don't claim to be. You want to be one with your people, then move there and live through what they live through.
Those people are peaceful and would welcome practically anyone, but they also don't know you're claiming to be a part of what they have to endure on a daily basis. Being proud of your ancestry is one thing, but you're a racist and that's different.

[myke_test1]

well to be honest i haven't seen Toney hurt before either if your talking about Staggering and clinching to survive the round then No.........


what do you classify as being hurt ?

[Run]

well to be honest i haven't seen Toney hurt before either if your talking about Staggering and clinching to survive the round then No.........


what do you classify as being hurt ?

How many times did you see Ray Mercer hurt before he faced Wlad? In fact, he was never even down.

What exactly makes you think Toney has faced someone who punches as hard as Wlad?

Answer me that.

You realize there is almost a ****ing foot difference in height, and strength.....please. Lets not go there.

This is a clear mismatch.



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[myke_test1]

For one, how did I spell it? Look at your ****ing quote and see how I spelled it. Insult? How about claiming to be a part of all the hardships Afrikan residents have to endure when you've never stepped foot in Afrika? As far as the Aztecs, it's the same thing. You're either really a part of it or you're not, and if you're not then don't claim to be. You want to be one with your people, then move there and live through what they live through.
Those people are peaceful and would welcome practically anyone, but they also don't know you're claiming to be a part of what they have to endure on a daily basis. Being proud of your ancestry is one thing, but you're a racist and that's different.

Racist ? how aam i racist have you seen me dish out any racial slurs ? or try to down someones race ? i don't see you saying that to Mickey Ward when he has the Irish in his name.....

This reminds me of the interview that Larry Merchant did with Bernard Hopkins before the Haakar(spell check?) fight...i suggest you look at it cause when you don't understand something you tend to try and degrade it or belittle it rather then asking question to understand it.....

if i'm a racist then countless others are such as Malcolm(shabazz) Huey Newton,Hutton,Clever,Garvey,Tupac,Amiri Baraka list goes on and on i can even say Castro

so hey if you call me a racist and i'm just stating the same as these people then yes i'll be a racist.......seems like i would be in good company with alot of people.......

[Floydmayweather]

How many times did you see Ray Mercer hurt before he faced Wlad? In fact, he was never even down.

What exactly makes you think Toney has faced someone who punches as hard as Wlad?

Answer me that.

You realize there is almost a ****ing foot difference in height, and strength.....please. Lets not go there.

This is a clear mismatch.

Well i have to say a few things about that. First off Wlad has never faced someone like Toney either, he is very difficult to hit with a good shot, and he has a great chin. He is also the best counter puncher in the game and will not stop throwing.

[Run]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Who were the jackasses who voted that Toney would KO Wlad? HAHA! Come on speak up, I have to know who is that ******ed! LMAO!!

This is arguably the ******est **** I have seen from a bandwagon crowd. Its ok to not like a fighter.........

but Get ****ing real. Toney is ****ing tiny.

He looked like a midget against Guinn. Guinn looks like a ****ing elf compared to Wlad.

This thread = Joke.



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[Run]

Well i have to say a few things about that. First off Wlad has never faced someone like Toney either, he is very difficult to hit with a good shot, and he has a great chin. He is also the best counter puncher in the game and will not stop throwing.

Oh and I suppose Toney is harder to hit than Byrd?

Please. Just look what he did to that cute ass.

He would have no trouble at all finding that fat midget.



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[hollister]

I watched the ****ing fight, what the **** is wrong with you, why you keep telling me to watch the fight. I think you need to watch the fight again. Then tell me when Toney was in trouble, because I never saw Toney being trouble in that fight. If Wlad takes 400 clean punches by Toney, he will go down hard. The guy chin is no good, every time Peter landed a punch on him he went down or was pushed hard into the ropes & those were not perfect punches by Peter. If Toney lands the way he did on Guinn, Wlad will be knocked out. Wlad skills is good for a big guy, but I don't see his skills helping him against Toney.

I keep telling you to watch the fight because you obviously picked the things you wanted to remember, and watched the fight through biased eyes. Now you're comparing Toney's power to Peter's? Watch the Wlad-Peter fight again, the only legit KD was after those shots to the temple Peter landed in the 10th, the others were bs straight up. Peter landed a very good hook to Wlad's chin in the 12th, and Wlad didn't go down. Guinn fought the wrong fight, he looked very good in the 1st few rounds, Toney wasn't landing ****. If Toney runs in on Wlad and does get under the jab, what's going to happen? Wlad's going to tie him up and that's it. Wlad is bigger and stronger than anyone Toney's faced, period. If Wlad could tie Peter up, he'll do it to Toney too. I saw a ton of things that I missed the first time when I watched Lewis-VK for the second time. That's why I said watch the fight again if you have really already seen it.

[myke_test1]

How many times did you see Ray Mercer hurt before he faced Wlad? In fact, he was never even down.

What exactly makes you think Toney has faced someone who punches as hard as Wlad?

Answer me that.

You realize there is almost a ****ing foot difference in height, and strength.....please. Lets not go there.

This is a clear mismatch.

Well what you wqoted was my rpely to toney never being hurt....not my reply to does Wlad have power

Clear mismatch ? well every time Toney steps in the ring with a heavyweight its a clear mismatch to the general public just cause the guy is taller thats it......bottom line is a man is a man

i think toney could hang with Wlad just cause of Pride alone......sure it might be tough cause Wlad might throw acouple of bombs here and there but like we say around here

"To take a life you have to bring a life"

and in order to hit toney i'm sure he will put himself in a position to be hit