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mannys p4p king..fighter of the decade..but would be tthe underdog against floyd why?

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  • #61
    Originally posted by MANIAC310 View Post
    because Floyd is more skilled and will use the same counter punching style JMM did to embarrass Pacquiao


    he'll just do it better..
    marquez + pac = close fights
    marquez + floyd = floyd dominate
    floyd+pac = floyd will outbox, and dominate pac?

    But Floyd cant put this equation in the RING why? vacation and ducking the lawsuit connected the dots for me.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
      I agree with you that Pac is more accomplished on paper and that the accomplishments have nothing to do with who is better , but they add to the aura of public perception and that alters betting thats why its relevant , for the bookies to initially instill Floyd as favorite they are stating who they think will win nothing more , what the public do from there will alter the betting .
      In the bold is exactly right. Is who they think will win and nothing more. So to mention Pac accolades is childish idiotic. Pretty much is a bait thread. That's all this is.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by KitangKatag View Post
        marquez + pac = close fights
        marquez + floyd = floyd dominate
        floyd+pac = floyd will outbox, and dominate pac?

        But Floyd cant put this equation in the RING why? vacation and ducking the lawsuit connected the dots for me.
        well the first fight was close due to knockdowns not rounds won or taken...


        Floyd does have all the tools to beat Manny.....if they both stopped ***ing around and fought

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        • #64
          Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
          In the bold is exactly right. Is who they think will win and nothing more. So to mention Pac accolades is childish idiotic. Pretty much is a bait thread. That's all this is.
          All Larry was saying is if Manny is so great why would Floyd be favorite to win , he used the accolades to back up the so great assumption in his post , this forum is not really the best place to be talking about childish idiots because most of the forum fall into that category , buddy bait threads are everywhere in here

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          • #65
            Originally posted by skillswin View Post
            thanks man we really need this!!


            I agree.. those *****s are hella racist..

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
              All Larry was saying is if Manny is so great why would Floyd be favorite to win , he used the accolades to back up the so great assumption in his post , this forum is not really the best place to be talking about childish idiots because most of the forum fall into that category , buddy bait threads are everywhere in here
              Being greater and being better are 2 different things.

              Pac is greater. Pac IMO is around the top 30-40 greatest fighters of all time.

              Floyd is better the more skilled fighter.

              Greatness is resume and accomplishments.

              Best is skills and talent.

              So Pac can "be so great" but still not be better or win a H2H match up.

              And, then you have to figure out styles. Because, one fighter can be better and greater and still lose to a fighter who has his number or the style to beat him.

              He didn't really need to mention Pac accolades. Unless he's trying to set up an argument that Floyd is greater. Now we can have a discussion.

              At the end of the day. All this bickering back and forth and trying to diminish one or the other is ******ed.

              Fact is Floyd would be the greatest win in Pac resume. So if Floyd is so terrible then how sad is Pac resume?

              Same thing for Floyd. Pac would be the greatest win in Floyd resume. So if Pac is so terrible then how said Floyd resume?

              How ****** and childish and frankly ******ed is it to try and diminish either fighter? Why even go down that route?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                Well no because, FOTD, FOTY, and the accolades that Manny has won. Has nothing to do with who's best. But, who actually has the better resume and accomplishment in said field.

                Nothing about FOTD.

                IMO Ricardo Lopez was the most perfect technical skills best fighter in the 90's. However, you can't tell me he deserved FOTD or FOTY or any really career accolades over the likes of Roy Jones and Whitaker who has accomplished much more.

                Pac has accomplished much more than Floyd.

                That's all there is to it.

                So I will ask again, what's the point of bringing that up?
                im not even sure if manny really accomplished more than floyd in reality...since the 2nd jmm fight hes had obvious advantages and was well matched..sure he \has the names but they wernt at their best..he fought them at the right time..hes a great fighter but has had greater match making

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by KitangKatag View Post
                  marquez + pac = close fights
                  marquez + floyd = floyd dominate
                  floyd+pac = floyd will outbox, and dominate pac?

                  But Floyd cant put this equation in the RING why? vacation and ducking the lawsuit connected the dots for me.
                  ducking a lawsuit???lol mannys ducking this test extremly hard..his team has made 100 excuses then to top it off they sue.....

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by KitangKatag View Post
                    marquez + pac = close fights
                    marquez + floyd = floyd dominate
                    floyd+pac = floyd will outbox, and dominate pac?

                    But Floyd cant put this equation in the RING why? vacation and ducking the lawsuit connected the dots for me.
                    That's simply not a good comparison.

                    Much different weights in the fights, it was pretty obvious JMM was way out of his weight, much slower, less power, less endurance.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Gutz View Post
                      I agree.. those *****s are hella racist..
                      yea cause floyd fans have pictures of floyd on kfc boxes and call people monkeys all day everyday..boy stop..*******s are disgraceful and pathetic..they dont know **** bout boxing so they resort to racism...but only over the internet cause they're pu22y

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