Just to remind you all about Ortiz AGAIN

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everybody, NEVER bet withthis guy, he is a snitch and never pays his bets if he loses....

o really VCVC? who didn't pay the bet, you OR me?

Don't bet with this ****er guys, look at the list where the users are that don't pay, his real name is VCVC bwahahaha punk

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exposed? you're a fool if you thought Maidana was that good to begin with, i'm a big fan, but the guy has no skill, just WILL

Never said that. He won unconvincingly against an opponent he was expected to dominate. But FYI Ortiz was 161 when he fought Berto @ welterweight. It seems he's a different animal at this weight class. So Posting up his fight with Maidana @ 140 isn't a good comparison.

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Never mentioned that , but FYI Ortiz was 161 when he fought Berto @ welterweight. It seems he's a different animal at this weight class. So Posting up his fight with Maidana @ 140 isn't a good comparison.

Ortiz doesn't like pressure, he'll fail again if they ever meet again.

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Maidana got beat by a shot Corley and Morales

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Maidana got beat by a shot Corley and Morales

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Ortiz doesn't like pressure, he'll fail again if they ever meet again.

ortiz handled Berto well, his heart's intact after all. If they ever meet again @ 147, yes we will see.

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ortiz handled Berto well, his heart's intact after all. If they ever meet again @ 147, yes we will see.

berto lost to Collazo, he was a hypejob and YOU KNOW IT!

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Maidana got beat by a shot Corley and Morales

huh????????????

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berto lost to Collazo, he was a hypejob and YOU KNOW IT!

Perhaps, but Ortiz was worse off coming into the Berto fight. It doesn't take any credit away from Ortiz.