Where do you place Carl Froch on your P4P list?

[MELLY-MEL...]

somewhere from 7 to 10.

[#1Assassin]

5-7.

its crazy how good he turned out to be, when i watched his fight with pascal i kept thinking 'how can this guy be fighting for a title'? i kept thinking ppl were gonna whupp his ass but he just kept finding a way to win. now here he is one of the premier fighters in the sport. fought the best run of oponents in boxing and stayed undefeated (imo).

[DUCK FACE]

I put him n2 as you didn't have the n1 option

[S H A R K B O Y]

My list..

1.Pac
2.Martinez
3.Floyd
4.Donaire
5.JMM
6.Wlad
7.Bradley
8.Froch
9.Ward
10.B-Hop

Froch before Ward? .

[Rome-By-Ko]

Froch before Ward? .

IMO yes I would put him before ward,he fought better opponents and imo he is undefeated..

[Earl-Hickey]

I think about number 6, he hasnt quite got the skills of some of the others, but he has enough skill and an iron will that makes him an elite talent

[shade darkar]

i dont. theres alot of talk about this run of top class opponents hes on. i dont really see it that way. glen johnson was 42 and had 14 losses, abraham is not a super middleweight, he lost to kessler, he was thoroughly outboxed by a man on the run and got a gift of a decision against dirrell.

He does come to fight, will fight anyone and gives it his all, and i think this is why alot of people are overrating him.

[New England]

he lost to kessler, or was at least in a fight close enough to be a draw or SD. if you think that was a clear froch victory you are biased.

he lost to dirrell on my card, but you could certainly argue that he won that fight. again, same deal. dirrell landed more clean effective punches in that fight. froch hardly hit him with anything, but he did come forward, and dirrell wasn't behaving like a professional.

went to war with taylor (yeah yeah, that was taylor's last great fight, you don't need to tell me, i could have hocked a lougie into the ring that night from my seat. taylor had speed and skills and feints that were able to win rounds against froch and he could do damage with his power. he was going to win the fight if he wasn't stopped)



he's a very good fighter and his approach to boxing in and out of the ring is among my favorites for active fighters
dude fights everybody and will go to war or use his skills, whichever works best



but he's about 11-15 in my book

maybe maybe maybe you can make the argument for ten


ward's got to be rated higher than froch in my eyes.
he's far more versatile, he's got no jumping flaws
and he starched an opponent who earned a W against froch

froch is the man, but he is slow. there's just no getting around it. in terms of a top tier p4p fighter he is slow enough to get exposed



if froch beats ward, however, he's got an argument for the top 5
that would be a fantastic win, and he would have a chance of going down as one of the most accomplished men in the history of the division at 168 (crazy as that seems, its one of the thinnest divisions in boxing history)




his run is perhaps the best in boxing, and he's one of my favorite boxers.
if he beat kessler decisively he'd probably be in my top 10, but he didn't. he's top 11-14 on the merits of his resume, if not on his ring skills and talents

[Rome-By-Ko]

he lost to kessler, or was at least in a fight close enough to be a draw or SD. if you think that was a clear froch victory you are biased.

he lost to dirrell on my card, but you could certainly argue that he won that fight. again, same deal. dirrell landed more clean effective punches in that fight. froch hardly hit him with anything, but he did come forward, and dirrell wasn't behaving like a professional.

went to war with taylor (yeah yeah, that was taylor's last great fight, you don't need to tell me, i could have hocked a lougie into the ring that night from my seat. taylor had speed and skills and feints that were able to win rounds against froch and he could do damage with his power. he was going to win the fight if he wasn't stopped)



he's a very good fighter and his approach to boxing in and out of the ring is among my favorites for active fighters
dude fights everybody and will go to war or use his skills, whichever works best



but he's about 11-15 in my book

maybe maybe maybe you can make the argument for ten


ward's got to be rated higher than froch in my eyes.
he's far more versatile, he's got no jumping flaws
and he starched an opponent who earned a W against froch

froch is the man, but he is slow. there's just no getting around it. in terms of a top tier p4p fighter he is slow enough to get exposed



if froch beats ward, however, he's got an argument for the top 5
that would be a fantastic win, and he would have a chance of going down as one of the most accomplished men in the history of the division at 168 (crazy as that seems, its one of the thinnest divisions in boxing history)




his run is perhaps the best in boxing, and he's one of my favorite boxers.
if he beat kessler decisively he'd probably be in my top 10, but he didn't. he's top 11-14 on the merits of his resume, if not on his ring skills and talents

I had Froch beating Kessler on my cards as well as beating Dirrell..Both imo were close fights that had it gone either way you really could not be mad..I respect ya breakdown/post,even tho I may not totally agree with it..

[slimshandy69]

he lost to kessler, or was at least in a fight close enough to be a draw or SD. if you think that was a clear froch victory you are biased.

he lost to dirrell on my card, but you could certainly argue that he won that fight. again, same deal. dirrell landed more clean effective punches in that fight. froch hardly hit him with anything, but he did come forward, and dirrell wasn't behaving like a professional.

went to war with taylor (yeah yeah, that was taylor's last great fight, you don't need to tell me, i could have hocked a lougie into the ring that night from my seat. taylor had speed and skills and feints that were able to win rounds against froch and he could do damage with his power. he was going to win the fight if he wasn't stopped)



he's a very good fighter and his approach to boxing in and out of the ring is among my favorites for active fighters
dude fights everybody and will go to war or use his skills, whichever works best



but he's about 11-15 in my book

maybe maybe maybe you can make the argument for ten


ward's got to be rated higher than froch in my eyes.
he's far more versatile, he's got no jumping flaws
and he starched an opponent who earned a W against froch

froch is the man, but he is slow. there's just no getting around it. in terms of a top tier p4p fighter he is slow enough to get exposed



if froch beats ward, however, he's got an argument for the top 5
that would be a fantastic win, and he would have a chance of going down as one of the most accomplished men in the history of the division at 168 (crazy as that seems, its one of the thinnest divisions in boxing history)




his run is perhaps the best in boxing, and he's one of my favorite boxers.
if he beat kessler decisively he'd probably be in my top 10, but he didn't. he's top 11-14 on the merits of his resume, if not on his ring skills and talents

froch actually landed the cleaner punches, roumnd 3 and 8 being the best pun ches of the night.

Dirrell after just 3 rounds had a bloodied face.

Dirrells best punches were in round 10, but due to his awful cheating he was deducted a point.

So all in all, froch won be a mile...