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  • dans
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    #21
    Pac/Marquez 3 would be better at 135 or 140. JMM showed us he's not built for greatness past 135.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Bushbaby
      Keep lying to urself buddy.That's all ur doing.Marquez has no business at welterweight.None.It was a horrible fight when Floyd fought him there,it will be a horrible fight when Pacman does too.

      Both Floyd & Manny has not fought a young,prime fighter coming off of an impressive win since they've been at welterweight.Well Floyd is breaking that trend.Being a fan is 1 thing,but being a blind nutthugger is another.
      if ortiz has business fighting floyd, how do u see ortiz winning?

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        #23
        Originally posted by [KLTP]
        To tell ya the truth, I'm only excited Floyd's returning. Don't get me wrong, the Ortiz fight is a good fight, but I much rather see Pac-Marquez 3. It's a fight I've been wanting to see for 3 years now.
        pretty much feel the same way
        I'm excited for both but i've been waiting to see the Trilogy for years.
        I wasn't too sure it was ever going to happen and now that it is I can't wait

        even though i'm sure JMM will probably lose by TKO i'm still hoping he pulls off a really big upset

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          #24
          Originally posted by dans
          Pac/Marquez 3 would be better at 135 or 140. JMM showed us he's not built for greatness past 135.
          to be fair he was fighting Floyd...who looks good against Floyd? even full WW's and JMW's look bad against him

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            #25
            Originally posted by led's son
            lets be real here, jmm gave pac one of the hardest fight pac had. And this is gonna be war coz these boxers are not pus.sy. While the other fight, floyd will hide behind his technical skills and will kill the excitement ortiz brings in the fight...in d end a boring ud.
            not at all

            Bold: LMFAO

            Kill urself PLEASE

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            • Bushbaby
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              #26
              Originally posted by led's son
              if ortiz has business fighting floyd, how do u see ortiz winning?
              This is the reality of the situation whether people admit it or not.Neither Floyd nor Manny have fought a prime,strong,young welterweight since touching down there.Floyd is going to finally break that trend.Now unlike most on boxing scene I believe that any prime young fighter has a chance against Floyd or Pacman.Why wouldn't they.Long layoff age 34,relatively soft welterweight opposition,that's why Ortiz has business in the ring with Floyd.Legitimate champ,young & strong & prime.

              Now I answered U answer me.What business does Marquez have in another welterweight fight against supposedly boxing's greatest active fighter??When it's as clear as day that 135 was pushing it??

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                #27
                Originally posted by JDezi4
                not at all

                Bold: LMFAO

                Kill urself PLEASE
                And just to answer the question you've been asking...

                Ortiz has 1 of the 2 style needed to beat Floyd. Khan has the other.

                Go on the inside throwing short hooks, and in Ortiz's case, with devastating power. Using that power to go ****ing on Floyd's arms, elbows, shoulders (anything u can hit). He can wear Floyd down and beat him that way. (Take into mind, after the long lay-off and taking age into account, Floyd legs, which is all that would save him from that beating, are arguably gone)

                Now, Marquez vs Pacquiao 3... Marquez's power was none-existent at 147. His punch resistance is also very diminished as Floyd, who is not a hard puncher knocked him down despite showing a solid chin against harder punchers at the lower weights. Manny, who already showed physical (note the word PHYSICAL, not technical) dominance over him at the lower weights, has gotten physically STRONGER. So Manny has gotten physically better, while Juan gets physically weaker... There's no way Juan wins.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by bighey
                  BUSHBABY....thats the thing that guy or girl dont have the answer to the question you thrown at him. These people are haters and thats a fact..to just blatantly go after a man cause he is not doing what ya favorite boxer expects him to do is nuthugging and felonious **** sucking. Let Floyd live man..nobody even heard of Pac ubtil he was attached to Mayweathers name GTFOH.
                  if you hadn't heard of Pacquiao before they started asking for a Mayweather Pacquiao fight I guess you're not a real fan of boxing

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by bighey
                    BUSHBABY....thats the thing that guy or girl dont have the answer to the question you thrown at him. These people are haters and thats a fact..to just blatantly go after a man cause he is not doing what ya favorite boxer expects him to do is nuthugging and felonious **** sucking. Let Floyd live man..nobody even heard of Pac ubtil he was attached to Mayweathers name GTFOH.
                    Don't discredit Oscar's contribution to Manny's superstardom

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                      #30
                      Honestly, not at 144lbs.

                      Ortiz vs Floyd is a fight I'm more excited to see because I know JMM is too old and not suited for 144lbs to make this a good fight.

                      Pac retires JMM in this fight.

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