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  • GrandpaBernard
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    #11
    Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
    I've watched it several times, even without the volume on and thought Oscar had some moments. Majority were early on though lol.



    Interesting, can you tell me who else apart from Oscar bro? I'm curious.
    Justin Juuko

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    • tangalog2200
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      #12
      Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut
      Oscar wasn't effective, he was reward rounds for effort and because he is Oscar and plus the CROWD Cheering for Punches that wasn't even landing

      then gullible idiot at home was probably influences by Merchant and Steward who were BOTH was playing CHEERLEADERS for Oscar and was being Critical of Mayweather simply because Mayweather wouldn't "LET OSCAR HIT HIM" lol and because Mayweather did a lot of trash talking leading up to that fight...

      Roach have no damn Gameplan to beat Mayweather...NOBODY DOES...WHY? Because Mayweather makes adjustments DURING THE FIGHT...So what are you preparing for? How can you prepare for something when you really don't know what to prepare for, Ortiz don't know which Mayweather he will get, will he get the Mayweather that will stand and fight and come forward more like he did against Mosley or will he get the ELUSIVE Mayweather the one we seen against JMM

      from what I have see during his entire career, when Mayweather makes his ADJUSTMENTS and figure you out......FIGHT IS OVER...So HOW Do You Prepare For That And WHAT Do You Prepare For?
      when did you start figuring what's in roach's (multi-awarded trainer) head? also pbf could not stand or run 12 rounds vs pac bcoz pac is not an oscar or jmm who were slow bcoz of the weights and age...pbf had never faced a relentless foe like pac who additionally is a quick and experienced southpaw dreaded by the mayweathers

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      • Mr. Fantastic
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        #13
        Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
        Justin Juuko
        I didn't even know Floyd fought him. Thanks man.

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        • KnockUTheFukOut
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          #14
          Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
          I've watched it several times, even without the volume on and thought Oscar had some moments. Majority were early on though lol.



          Interesting, can you tell me who else apart from Oscar bro? I'm curious.

          OF COURSE HE HAD MOMENTS, never said he didn't! But was is a Close Fight, Close enough for one of the judges to actually SCORE THE FIGHT FOR HIM? *** NO!

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          • lx!!
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            #15
            WTF!? Why hire roach? Roach is over rated & not as good as all these PAC fans think. Thats right PAC fans i call them that cuz there not boxing fans their pac fans.

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              #16
              roach cant even come up with a fight plan for pac to beat floyd so what will he do for ortiz? NOTHING

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              • Mr. Fantastic
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                #17
                Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut
                OF COURSE HE HAD MOMENTS, never said he didn't! But was is a Close Fight, Close enough for one of the judges to actually SCORE THE FIGHT FOR HIM? *** NO!
                True, I agree with what you're saying about the scorecard. As a diehard Oscar fan, I knew he lost like 8-4 or somewhere around there.

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                • Jamel H
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by sdcluser
                  Even if supposedly "feather fisted", wouldn't surprise me Floyd KD Ortiz. Ortiz's defense is suspect and a hard accurate right drops him.
                  Exactly Ortiz doesn't have the best defense and leaves himself open alot, even Peterson found his mark against Ortiz

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                  • KnockUTheFukOut
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by tangalog2200
                    when did you start figuring what's in roach's (multi-awarded trainer) head? also pbf could not stand or run 12 rounds vs pac bcoz pac is not an oscar or jmm who were slow bcoz of the weights and age...pbf had never faced a relentless foe like pac who additionally is a quick and experienced southpaw dreaded by the mayweathers

                    WTF are you talking about...THIS THREAD IS ABOUT VICTOR ORTIZ HIRING ROACH

                    how the *** did you drag Pacquiao into all of this? Pull your HEAD OUT OF MANNY'S ASS AND WIPE HIS **** OFF YOUR FACE, I don't play that whole Mayweather vs Pacquiao BS so try it with someone else, I don't have time to go back and forth with fans who don't know **** about boxing but instead just has a PERSONAL "MAN CRUSH" on Pacquiao and/or Mayweather so they feel they have to jump to their DEFENSE ALL THE TIME

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                    • sdcluser
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Cashtro
                      Exactly Ortiz doesn't have the best defense and leaves himself open alot, even Peterson found his mark against Ortiz
                      Yeah. What Ortiz needs to work on is his D. He can be wild and is off balance. That sharp right won't devastate but will KD due partly to the balance.

                      Don't try to outbox Floyd. Out work him with effective body and head shots.

                      What Ortiz's trainer should do is also body shots. Properly angled body punches will do more against Mayweather in that shell. He needs to throw BOTH to the head and balance it to the body like Castillo did to make his work rate to be effective.

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