Comments Thread For: Sauerland: Bute, Stieglitz Fights on The Table For Kessler

[Hitman932]

What I want to happen:

Fight 1: Bute-Kessler in October 2011 for IBF title

Step 1 is never gonna happen, so really that's nothing but a fantasy scenario.

[BattlingNelson]

Only someone completely out of touch with reality would believe there is even a 1% chance of Kessler traveling to Canada to take on the more difficult opponent.

Of course he's gonna go after Stieglitz, and hell no he won't have any interest in Bute after securing the most meaningless belt in the division.

All Kessler wants is a crappy belt from Stieglitz so he can entice Ward with the same unification offer that Bute will. Until he fights the bum Stieglitz he's not on even terms with Bute in the Super 6 winner sweepstakes.

Hell will freeze over before Kessler takes on Bute. Even if he beats Stieglitz, he's just gonna sit on his ass while releasing statements saying he should be entitled to a shot before Bute.

I will bet 100 million points that Kessler doesn't choose Bute and I will offer 10-1 odds.

If the fight happens I pay you 100 mill, if Kessler goes after Stieglitz I get 10 mill.

Kessler has travelled to his opponents backyards before, so there's no reason to believe he wouldn't do it again.

If the money for fighting Bute is not significantly higher than for a Stieglitz fight he'd probably take the german. If he picked up the belt he'd be one step closer to his goal of becoming undisputed and the title gives more leverage in negotiations.

Brouadla-Stieglitz-Bute-s6winner? Sounds like a fine route to me.

[Hitman932]

Brouadla-Stieglitz-Bute-s6winner? Sounds like a fine route to me.

Sounds like a fighter and promoter who prefer to choose the path of least resistance to me.

Virgil Hunter has Kessler and Sauerland summer up perfectly in this statement:

I saw Kessler trying to make a statement last week, saying that the money’s not right with Bute so they’re going to start looking at [WBO 168-pound champion Robert] Stieglitz. And if they did that, that would be very disappointing to me. What do you mean the money’s not right? Television is who’s putting up the money. Everybody would be paid in that fight. I don’t think it’s a situation where Bute would want 60-40 or 55-45. That’s a 50-50 fight. And depending on what they do in Denmark, Kessler gets a portion of that revenue. And depending on what they do in Canada, Bute gets a portion of that. And they can fight at a neutral sight. I think they want to do what they’ve always done and that’s get an easy title shot. Why would you look to Stieglitz who is not a threat to you? But at the same time, I can’t honestly say what the negotiations are. I don’t know what they’re doing. I’m not saying he’s ducking Bute, but who knows? But if he did that, I would be disappointed. Because what’s the point of coming back?



I agree with Hunter 100%.

Why even come back to the game if you're just gonna take the easiest fight possible?

Kessler can fight Stieglitz if he wants, but if he doesn't take on Bute and beat him then he will never get a shot at Andre Ward again.

Ward is not going to give Kessler a rematch before he fights Bute. So unless Froch wins, fighting Stiegtlitz is just a ****** career move.

If Ward is told he has to face Kessler, and Kessler doesn't earn that right by beating Bute, then Ward is just gonna move up and let Kessler go back to fighting Euro bums like Dmitri Sartison.

[ShoulderRoll]

Bute vs. Kessler is the fight that should happen next. With the winner fighting the Super 6 champion to crown the baddest 168-pounder on the planet.

Stieglitz is a joke.

[ciochia]

Bute-Kessler-Stieglitz

Only someone completely out of touch with reality would believe there is even a 1% chance of Kessler traveling to Canada to take on the more difficult opponent.

Of course he's gonna go after Stieglitz, and hell no he won't have any interest in Bute after securing the most meaningless belt in the division.

All Kessler wants is a crappy belt from Stieglitz so he can entice Ward with the same unification offer that Bute will. Until he fights the bum Stieglitz he's not on even terms with Bute in the Super 6 winner sweepstakes.

Hell will freeze over before Kessler takes on Bute. Even if he beats Stieglitz, he's just gonna sit on his ass while releasing statements saying he should be entitled to a shot before Bute.

I will bet 100 million points that Kessler doesn't choose Bute and I will offer 10-1 odds.

If the fight happens I pay you 100 mill, if Kessler goes after Stieglitz I get 10 mill.

Yes, it is likely to be true.Bute built up in Montreal his boxing career and
hi is probably reluctant to go fighting in Denmark. Bute-Kessler fight
will not take place for the time being(IMO), and the big problem is if Stieglitz
turns down Kessler's offer because of the high risk of loss of the fight
even in his backyard.Stieglitz turned down many times the offers coming
from Bute and he will do the same thing with any other like:Kessler,Froch,
Dirrel or Ward.Hi knows his own value.

[Porter's Dad]

gee i wonder who it will be...............lol!

Depressingly inevitable.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Kessler could've fought Steiglitz on saturday night and won. Even though i thought he didnt look that great against that bum he was fighting

[Kesslerfan#1]

Sounds like a fighter and promoter who prefer to choose the path of least resistance to me.

Virgil Hunter has Kessler and Sauerland summer up perfectly in this statement:

I saw Kessler trying to make a statement last week, saying that the money’s not right with Bute so they’re going to start looking at [WBO 168-pound champion Robert] Stieglitz. And if they did that, that would be very disappointing to me. What do you mean the money’s not right? Television is who’s putting up the money. Everybody would be paid in that fight. I don’t think it’s a situation where Bute would want 60-40 or 55-45. That’s a 50-50 fight. And depending on what they do in Denmark, Kessler gets a portion of that revenue. And depending on what they do in Canada, Bute gets a portion of that. And they can fight at a neutral sight. I think they want to do what they’ve always done and that’s get an easy title shot. Why would you look to Stieglitz who is not a threat to you? But at the same time, I can’t honestly say what the negotiations are. I don’t know what they’re doing. I’m not saying he’s ducking Bute, but who knows? But if he did that, I would be disappointed. Because what’s the point of coming back?



I agree with Hunter 100%.

Why even come back to the game if you're just gonna take the easiest fight possible?

Kessler can fight Stieglitz if he wants, but if he doesn't take on Bute and beat him then he will never get a shot at Andre Ward again.

Ward is not going to give Kessler a rematch before he fights Bute. So unless Froch wins, fighting Stiegtlitz is just a ****** career move.

If Ward is told he has to face Kessler, and Kessler doesn't earn that right by beating Bute, then Ward is just gonna move up and let Kessler go back to fighting Euro bums like Dmitri Sartison.

If he can Fight Stieglitz in Denmark or Germany and make some good cash I dont blame him...Bute would be the better fight but if he wants another tune up against another bum and gains a belt and some good coin who can blame him??...how many tune ups would Bute take if he were out for 14 months???
But yes agreed its not doing much for Kesslers legacy if he is to take on the German...go to Canada and smash Butes head in I reckon!!...least he would be the first to do it and get away with it...not like Andrade lol!!!

[Kesslerfan#1]

Kessler has travelled to his opponents backyards before, so there's no reason to believe he wouldn't do it again.

If the money for fighting Bute is not significantly higher than for a Stieglitz fight he'd probably take the german. If he picked up the belt he'd be one step closer to his goal of becoming undisputed and the title gives more leverage in negotiations.

Brouadla-Stieglitz-Bute-s6winner? Sounds like a fine route to me.

Brilliant as usual Bat!!!!

[Fox McCloud]

I'd prefer Kessler-Bute, but fighting Stieglitz first and then Bute would mean a IBF & WBO unification fight.

My thoughts exactly.

Advantages of Kessler Fighting Stieglitz Before Bute
Advantage - A unification fight would increase the hype around the eventual Kessler-Bute clash, which hopefully would be immediately after.
Advantage - It gives Kessler another fight to get any remaining ring rust off (even though it didn't look like there was much last Saturday), and it's against a guy who fits nicely in the middle of Bouadla (who kind of impressed me actually, certainly better than his record indicated) and Bute.
Advantage - It gets a belt away from Stieglitz, who strikes me as a fairly protected champion to be honest. I haven't been super impressed with the competition he has faced since winning the belt from Balzsay. Gutknecht was green (18 fights), and Ornelas and Gevor are just okay... nothing special.

Advantages of Kessler Fighting Bute Immediately
Advantage - A Kessler-Stielgitz fight keeps Bute on the shelf, and unless he picks to fight Andre Dirrell (which I think is unlikely), we will probably get yet another obnoxious Bute defense where his opponent has no chance of beating him, since there really is almost no one left for him to fight in the division that anyone has ever heard of.
Advantage - It's the best possible fight that can be made in the division that doesn't include Andre Ward or Carl Froch (except for maybe Andre Dirrell, whose status is uncertain at the moment, and either fight being made is far from guaranteed).
Advantage - It avoids the possibility of a hand injury or cut or something that could further delay a Bute-Kessler fight after the interim fight against Stieglitz and whoever Bute gets in the ring with.
Advantage - In the most remote of possibilities, Stieglitz could get a fluke win over Kessler, and the Bute-Kessler matchup would never happen, or would only happen after an immediate rematch... and even then, the Super Six would be over, and more attractive opponents will be available for Bute.