Arum: Martinez has No chance To fight Chavez JR. Cotto To decide

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

You people need to quit being idiots and don't just blame it on the promoter, the boxer himself has a lot to do with the decisions. Just because he's a nice is the reason people shit on Arum and not the boxer himself.

No man, your wrong.

I'm in a pro gym all day long and fighters don't chose who they fight, their promoters and managers make those decisions.

That's why talk of "avoiding" is such BS, I would say 99% of fighters don't make decisions unless your name is Pac, Mayweather or DLH. When your on that level you can pick and chose, for Chavez jr, he fights who they put in front of him.

There is so much politics to boxing, if fighters could just pick and chose fights, we wouldn't be complaining about these BS fights all the time.

[IMDAZED]

No man, your wrong.

I'm in a pro gym all day long and fighters don't chose who they fight, their promoters and managers make those decisions.

That's why talk of "avoiding" is such BS, I would say 99% of fighters don't make decisions unless your name is Pac, Mayweather or DLH. When your on that level you can pick and chose, for Chavez jr, he fights who they put in front of him.

There is so much politics to boxing, if fighters could just pick and chose fights, we wouldn't be complaining about these BS fights all the time.

Well thought-out post.

[Mr. Fantastic]

No man, your wrong.

I'm in a pro gym all day long and fighters don't chose who they fight, their promoters and managers make those decisions.

That's why talk of "avoiding" is such BS, I would say 99% of fighters don't make decisions unless your name is Pac, Mayweather or DLH. When your on that level you can pick and chose, for Chavez jr, he fights who they put in front of him.

There is so much politics to boxing, if fighters could just pick and chose fights, we wouldn't be complaining about these BS fights all the time.

No I'm right. Look, I know you work in a gym and shit and is a more credible poster than a lot of them here but Cotto has the say so on who he fights, just like Chavez Jr.

Chavez Jr. wants to fight Martinez but I can understand him trying to make more money with Cotto, hence him choosing who. Like Chavez Sr. is going to allow that as well?

[Pullcounter]

I don't understand why some of u mofos are upset. Some of y'all act like Martinez/Chavez is a great fight. It will be a massacre. Accusations that adult is prottecting Chavez Jr are equally ******. Since when is fighting cotton an easy fight?

The only legitimate reason for anger is for adult keeping his promotions in house, but even that is spurious because which promoted doesn't so that?

[champ_kw]

When will you guys wake up and realize what Arum is doing. Chavez talked out of his anus and stated he wanted a fight with Martinez and now Arum is trying to protect him. Arum has no intention of making the best fights, but instead to keep his money in house and to protect his fightes.

Case in point what the hell has Margarito done lately to deserve to fight Pac or Cotto, but Martinez cant get a shot at Cotto or Chavez. Anyone who doesnt recognize this is a complete fool. Look at the Bums Manny Pacquaio is facing and look at the tough competition that Martinez is facing each time out.

Word. I've seen this movie before.

[Brail]

Bob Arum, the ball is in the field of Miguel Cotto.

The veteran promoter said yesterday that the Puerto Rican welterweight champion, World Boxing Association version (AMB), the person to decide who will face for his next fight, either the brand new middleweight champion of the World Boxing Council (WBC), Julio César Chavez, Jr., or the former champion and champion Antonio Margarito.

In a telephone conversation with Primera Hora, Arum also revealed that the possible date for the meeting will be Dec. 3 and not the first week of October, as originally speculated.

"I will meet people from Chavez and Margarito and then I sit down to talk with (Gabriel) Peñagaricano (Cotto's lawyer) and Michael to submit the two bids and that he chooses," Arum said by telephone.

"Cotto has earned that right (to choose) because, after Manny Pacquiao is the biggest attraction of pay-per-view today."

A possible match between Cotto and Chavez, Jr., took greater force on Saturday after "the son of the legend" overcome by a majority decision to Germany's Sebastian Zbik to snatch the WBC middleweight scepter.

Cotto, who was present at the billboard in Los Angeles, also contemplated the possibility of a rematch with Margarito, head of the first defeat of Puerto Rico in July 2008.

Cotto accept a confrontation with Chavez, Jr., would seek to become the first Puerto Rican to be crowned in four divisions.

Arum said that whether Chavez Jr., or Margarito, the tentative date is December 3, probably in Las Vegas

"There will be 1 October because HBO is scheduled to present that night a fight Sergio Martinez and 8 is a day sacred to the ***ish community (Yom Kippur), "said the veteran boxing man, who was emphatic in stating Martinez "has no chance" to fight Chavez, Jr., in his next fight.

http://www.primerahora.com/cottotend...ra-513170.html

Good to know people are starting to wise up to Bob Arums antics.

Hes being doing this for many, many years, and will continue...

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

No I'm right. Look, I know you work in a gym and shit and is a more credible poster than a lot of them here but Cotto has the say so on who he fights, just like Chavez Jr.

Chavez Jr. wants to fight Martinez but I can understand him trying to make more money with Cotto, hence him choosing who. Like Chavez Sr. is going to allow that as well?

Listen, it's not that easy bro...

I will give you an example of a fighter (won't name names because he's a well known pro) who is in our gym and had to take a fight he didn't want because of the money.

He fights at 126lbs but he was offered a fight with a well known Cuban prospect recently who weighs 135lbs+. I asked him why he would take this fight and he basically told me he needed to send money to his family out of country. It's basically a loss for him, but he has to think of his family first. Fans will say he's ****** and that the other fighter is "avoiding" so and so but they don't know the details of what is going on, just like we as fans don't understand the details most of the time.

Cotto can chose to a certain extent but you also have to look at promotional companies and money involved. Remember, there are promotional companies that don't like each other, so that makes problems.

Then you look at Chavez who everyone is dying to fight now because they feel like it's an easy W. Cotto vs Chavez or Canelo is big money man, why would Chavez or the promotional company pass that up?

You are speaking from a fans perspective and I understand and respect that but the business aspect of boxing isn't the simple.

I'm not defending it, just letting you know how it really is.

[JoeDaWg]

A blind man could have seen this coming. Aint no way arum is letting martinez anywhere near jr. That wouldn't even be a fight, it would be a slaughter. Arum is gonna make as much money off jr s name as he can before he feeds him to the wolves.

[JoeDaWg]

And why would arum feed jr to martinez to begin win? Did I miss something? Does arum owe martinez something? Is arum looking to do lou any favours? He's gonna feed jr. And that belt to one of his own guys like cotto. No way he throws that big ass bone down the street. Top rank isn't a charity, is a business. It isn't just he fighters who are all about he money.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Listen, it's not that easy bro...

I will give you an example of a fighter (won't name names because he's a well known pro) who is in our gym and had to take a fight he didn't want because of the money.

He fights at 126lbs but he was offered a fight with a well known Cuban prospect recently who weighs 135lbs+. I asked him why he would take this fight and he basically told me he needed to send money to his family out of country. It's basically a loss for him, but he has to think of his family first. Fans will say he's ****** and that the other fighter is "avoiding" so and so but they don't know the details of what is going on, just like we as fans don't understand the details most of the time.

Cotto can chose to a certain extent but you also have to look at promotional companies and money involved. Remember, there are promotional companies that don't like each other, so that makes problems.

Then you look at Chavez who everyone is dying to fight now because they feel like it's an easy W. Cotto vs Chavez or Canelo is big money man, why would Chavez or the promotional company pass that up?

You are speaking from a fans perspective and I understand and respect that but the business aspect of boxing isn't the simple.

I'm not defending it, just letting you know how it really is.

Like I said, I understand the up and comers.

I understand and look at it from both sides. I understand the beef with promotional rivalries (Arum's fault along with the rest of the promoters) and the FINAL decision on who Cotto/Jr. will fight (their fault).

I understand what you're saying it just doesn't change my view on Arum and the boxers themselves.