Carl froch is p4p top 5

[Mr. Fantastic]

He's definitely in the top 10 P4P. But he's not getting the recognition he deserves because 1) he's not American and 2) he's white.

If he beats Ward, who The Ring has ranked #9, hopefully he'll finally receive the recognition he deserves.

It's funny how Ward has a crappier resume than Froch but yet Ward is in the P4P. Froch doesn't get much props like he should. Dude fights everyone and this is why he's one of my current favorite boxers.

[any craic lad?]

Top Ten for me a win over ward and hes a clear top 5 or 4

[nomadman]

P4P lists are pretty subjective anyway.

Froch doesn't automatically enter a lot of people's minds when compiling lists like this because of his rather crude and clumsy style, and the (erroneous) idea that P4P guys have to have a kind of slickness or athleticism to them to qualify. But I think if you were to include him on your own personal lists nobody would complain. He's more than justified a place there now.

[coreyg100]

He will beat Ward and is Top 10 not 5

[victorythagr8]

It's funny how Ward has a crappier resume than Froch but yet Ward is in the P4P. Froch doesn't get much props like he should. Dude fights everyone and this is why he's one of my current favorite boxers.

maybe because people felt Froch got some home cooking with Dirrell, while Ward dominated Kessler, the same kessler who beat Froch after a lost against Ward.

He is still not a top 5 p4p because IMO Donaire, Marquez, Martinez, Pacquaio, bradley, wlad did much more than froch.

[mathed]

He's definitely in the top 10 P4P. But he's not getting the recognition he deserves because 1) he's not American and 2) he's white.

If he beats Ward, who The Ring has ranked #9, hopefully he'll finally receive the recognition he deserves.

Come on man, only 3 of the top 10 P4P are even American according to Ring. They have Wlad ranked 5th P4P......and only 3 out of the P4P top 10 are black.

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/ratings

Manny Pacquiao
Country: Philippines (General Santos City)
Record: 52-3-2 (38 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 1 | Last Week: 1 | Weeks On List: 391
Titles: WBO

Sergio Martinez
Country: Argentina
Record: 47-2-2 (26 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 2 | Last Week: 2 | Weeks On List: 57
Titles: The Ring
Nonito Donaire
Country: Philippines
Record: 26-1-0 (18 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 3 | Last Week: 3 | Weeks On List: 109

Juan Manuel Marquez
Country: Mexico
Record: 52-5-1 (38 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 4 | Last Week: 4 | Weeks On List: 220
Titles: WBA, WBO, The Ring

Wladimir Klitschko
Country: Ukraine
Record: 55-3-0 (49 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 5 | Last Week: 6 | Weeks On List: 42
Titles: IBF, WBO, The Ring

Timothy Bradley
Country: USA (Palm Springs, Calif.)
Record: 27-0-0 (11 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 6 | Last Week: 7 | Weeks On List: 37
Titles: WBO, WBC

Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Country: Thailand
Record: 78-3-1 (42 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 7 | Last Week: 5 | Weeks On List: 57
Titles: WBC, The Ring

Giovani Segura
Country: USA
Record: 26-1-1 (22 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 8 | Last Week: 8 | Weeks On List: 15
Titles: WBO, The Ring

Andre Ward
Country: USA
Record: 23-0 (13 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 9 | Last Week: 9 | Weeks On List: 7
Titles: WBA

Bernard Hopkins
Country: USA
Record: 52-5-2 (32 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: 10 | Last Week: NR | Weeks On List: 2
Titles: The Ring, WBC

[Mr. Fantastic]

maybe because people felt Froch got some home cooking with Dirrell, while Ward dominated Kessler, the same kessler who beat Froch after a lost against Ward.

He is still not a top 5 p4p because IMO Donaire, Marquez, Martinez, Pacquaio, bradley, wlad did much more than froch.

He didn't, he beat Dirrell, maybe if Dirrell wasn't running he would of had an easier case in winning. Also this triangle theory is just silly with Ward and Kessler. FYI many people thought Froch won against Kessler as well.

How does Donaire have a better case? He's been beating up guys coming up in weight most of the time. All he really has is Montiel and Vic.

[welcometosaigon]

Come on man, only 3 of the top 10 P4P are even American according to Ring. They have Wlad ranked 5th P4P......and only 3 out of the P4P top 10 are black.

Haha don't bother bringing facts into it. Dude is obsessed with race. He's really pathetic.

[-KPB-]

It's funny how Ward has a crappier resume than Froch but yet Ward is in the P4P. Froch doesn't get much props like he should. Dude fights everyone and this is why he's one of my current favorite boxers.

Whilst his resume is better, its not as big as you suggested....Wards best win is better than Froch's best win......

[Mr. Fantastic]

Whilst his resume is better, its not as big as you suggested....Wards best win is better than Froch's best win......

You're trying to go with the one win is better route lol. I rather go for someone with constant wins over good opponents than just go off one "big" win. Plus that "big" win that Froch didn't have against Kessler, many people thought Froch won.

Froch>>>>>>>Ward