Comments Thread For: CompuBox Stats: Chavez Lands Harder, Zbik Lands More

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Jr won the fight hew was hurting Zbik bad,however Jr will have to be coddled because i see any top 154 guy and 160 guy lighting him up.If he wants to get respect like his father Maravila should be next.

You want the kid to die??? He will never be his father, that's whats so unfair about all of this.

ZBIK WAS FIGHTING A CRUISER WEIGHT TONIGHT, his punches only look like shoe shine amateur punches, they were clean precision punches and against at middle weight they would've done damage.....

the weight disparity is played WAY TOO MUCH in favor of jr.....

seriously, if it wasn't for that, the kid had nothing...... it allowed him to absorb punches and make his, chavez jr's look like bombs........

this fight was a **** job, zbik got shafted, and chavez the cruiser weight won a middle weight title..........

that kid wouldn't even last 6 rounds with a real cruiser weight or even a real light heavy weight....

you can't account for his punches as being meaningful or effective, anyone two weight classes above who their fighting is always going to have the more powerful shots when he lands, gtfoh, **** isnt right........


like i said before, academically zbik won and owned this fight.....

I don't disagree with you but that's not the point. The question is, did Zbik win this fight?

The answer is simply no.

He was too small and the size difference made a big impact on the fight but you cannot just count punches because of that. His punches weren't effective, that's the bottom line.

You can't also ignore how hurt Zbik was after the 9th, he was really beat up to the body. I mean he struggled to get to his feet after the 11th, dude was ****** up.

[ATG Fighter]

Total punches landed: 392

Nice defense

[STREET CLEANER]

This whole thing was lined up so Jr could have a title. A top fighter with pop will clean out Jr. It is a reason Suliman stripped Martinez and made Zbik with his 10 KOes the champ.

Zbik was ripping Jr with combos and kept him inactive for most of the rounds. What happened to take the belt away from the champion.

This is what is wrong with the sport

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Staples Center, Los Angeles - Sebastian Zbik landed 135 more total punches and 93 more power shots, but Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. landed the harder shots- enough to impress two of three judges.

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This is the **** that is killing boxing and its been going n forever. The worst that Ive seen has been Oscar over Felix Sterm, Whitaker or Bazooka you choose. Holyfield over Lewis was pretty bad also but it is what it is. Chavez has been fighting bums but when he steps up and fights a real champion and clearly lost they still give him the fight. Almost as bad as calling his dad fighting Whitaker a draw or Richard Steele stopping the fight fight with Taylor. This has got to stop if boxing ever wants to come back to life. No more home cooking or champions hiding behind catch weights, bogus title defenses, PPV buys or steroids claims. Fight or get the hell on.

[lluisone]

THEY ROB ZBIK

[BrooklynBomber]

Chavez did win, this isn't amateur boxing, it isn't based on points.

Wha..What?


Chavez there reminded me of one Ricky Hatton in his fight against Tszyu, he low blowed, charged in with his head, attacked with his elbows and ref was turning the blind eye to it. I could only hope he meets his own Mayweather.

At most you could have given him was a draw, but just like foreigners get robbed on german and british soil, they have a flying fuck of a chance to win on American, unless their last name is Klitschko.

[Tomasio]

WOW!! Zbik ONLY threw 38 more punches than Chavesito, but yet landed 135 more!!! What made the fight look close was that Chavesito came on at the last seconds of some rounds & tried to steal them & by the way the decision went, he did.. & this fight was in L.A(& when fighting against a Mexican that's almost the equivalent as fighting him in Mexico) so it was obvious that Chavesito was gonna get favored & Zbik knew & even said it at the end of the fight.. The ref kept on telling Zbik not to hold Chavesito's head & even threaten Zbik to take points from him, but Chavesito kept Charging in head 1st like a bull & if Zbik wouldn't have held his head, he would have gotten head butted the whole night(they should put a glove on Chavesito's head) & Chavesito hit Zbik with a LOT of low blows(some far down on Zbik's legs)yet the ref kept on blaming Zbik for Chavesito's low blows!! Chavesito has NO defense, so if he even thinks about fighting any other TRUE middleweights out there with some pop in their punches like Guerrero, Ande Lee & Marco Antonio Rubio he getting laid out!!! Even Manfredo has a chance against jr & that's not even mentioning Martinez who will send Chavesito into an early retirement..But now Sumbag Arum is planning his B U L L S H I T Top Rank in house tournament & have Chavesito fight Cotto & Margarito & so on...

[Tomasio]

Chavez did win, this isn't amateur boxing, it isn't based on points.

It's funny cause when Trinidad fought De La Hoya, DLH landed close to 100 more punches that Trinidad, but Trinidad got a MD win & a LOT Mexican American's/Chicano's were screaming ROBBERY & were outraged by the decision(I personally think that even thou DLH literally GAVE Trinidad the last 3 rounds, DLH should have gotten the decision or at least a draw).. & recently when Mexican Arce beat Vazquez jr(by TKO in the last round) & when lot of Mexican American's/Chicano's posters here saw that Arce had thrown more or less 300 more punches than Vazquez jr, but only landed 36 more(obviously he missed a S H I T LOAD of shots) & the judges had it a draw(in the 11th round), they IMMEDIATELY were posting that the judges were blind, & that if Arce wouldn't have gotten the TKO he would have gotten robbed ect, ect..But the fight was actually that close cause Arce ONLY landed 36 more punches & that was counting the punches thrown in the 12th round(where the fight was stopped) & in the 4th round Arce outlanded Vazquez jr by 13 punches but Arce was knocked down so he lost that round 10-8 & the rest of the rounds were close...But Now that shoe is the other foot, IRONICALLY they seem NOT GIVE the total amount of punches landed ANY importance, just to try to justify Chavesito's BULL S H I T championship victory!!

[wizard king]

bunch of cry babies in here only mad because chavez won had it been anyother bum they would not be crying like biiitches that they are.

[BrooklynBomber]

bunch of cry babies in here only mad because chavez won had it been anyother bum they would not be crying like biiitches that they are.

And crying about someone else's criticism makes you this guy