What's better: Beating Faded Greats? Or Beating Prime Mediocres?

[etlux]

Pacquiao's resumé is built on beating faded and out of prime greats. e.g. Mosley, DLH, Barrera, Morales, Marquez

Floyd's resumé is built on beating prime mediocre to good fighters. e.g. Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, Corley, Corrales, Castillo, etc.

Which holds more prestige down the line historically speaking?

[S.G.]

Kind of impossible to answer that categorically. One faded great may be better than one "mediocre", and vice versa.

[etlux]

Kind of impossible to answer that categorically. One faded great may be better than one "mediocre", and vice versa.

yes but cumulatively speaking, if one's guys best wins are ALL against faded greats and another's is all against prime mediocres?

[Chadmazing]

I love how Pacquiao's opponents were all faded and shot.

Barerra (champion, would go on to become champion again, and would never be knocked out by anybody else)

Morales (Went on to nearly win a belt in two higher weight classes)

Marquez (Went on to do BETTER with his career as Lightweight Champion than when Manny fought him below there)

Morales was faded directly after Pacquiao, maybe. Clearly still a better fighter than most. The other two? Come on.

[S.G.]

yes but cumulatively speaking, if one's guys best wins are ALL against faded greats and another's is all against prime mediocres?

Well, given your examples I would go with Pacquiao over Floyd.

[EMACULATE]

Pacquiao's resumé is built on beating faded and out of prime greats. e.g. Mosley, DLH, Barrera, Morales, Marquez

Floyd's resumé is built on beating prime mediocre to good fighters. e.g. Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, Corley, Corrales, Castillo, etc.

Which holds more prestige down the line historically speaking?

Pac did beat Barrera and Morrales, Mosley and other older fighters.

Corrales undefeated knockout artist that after the Floyd loss won other very exciting fights and IMO is better than average. Couldve used a more effective jab and used his height behind the jab during hiw whole career, but never ducked anyone and fought to the finish.

Hatton undefeated and everyone said Floyd wouldnt fight him because of his pressure style, under-rated athleticism but his defense was questionable at best. Got totally after Floyd figured him out and was never the same fighter.

Baldomir beat Judah and got a gift decision against Clottey but lets bee real he is over-rated.

Judah talented but stamina is questionable and had some good moments early against Floyd but after he was figured out and got tired turned into a punching bag quickly.

Delahoya fight was at 154 and Oscar was the biggest draw in the sport and the bigger man. This was a close fight but clearly won by Floyd after Oscar faded as usual down the stretch. Good fight for Floyd though because he fought Delahoya at a weight he was comfortable at although a shell of himself. Baasically not the weight dreained fighter with IV marks in his arm like he was for the PAC fight.

Mosley although not the same young bull he once was had been ducked by Manny and Cotto wouldnt give him a rematch of there highly disputed decision. Floyd finally got the matched he asked for years earlier after they both supposedly ducked each other. This was a good win for Floyd after Mosley had derailed the Margarito express and called out Pacquaio and even said he would go down to 142 for a fight. He even went as far as going to Freddie Roaches gym to request a fight and Roach flat out said NO, because Mosley was too good and said he wouldnt fight him at 147 like he fought Oscar. A sign of weight draining which is one of the problem I have with PAC REIGN SO FAR.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Pacquiao's resumé is built on beating faded and out of prime greats. e.g. Mosley, DLH, Barrera, Morales, Marquez

Floyd's resumé is built on beating prime mediocre to good fighters. e.g. Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, Corley, Corrales, Castillo, etc.

Which holds more prestige down the line historically speaking?

barerra, morales, & marquez were all top 10 p4p when pac beat & were all 30 & under when pac faced them.

Add top 10 p4p in the whole sport ricky hatton & miguel cotto, plus the sheer vastness of pac's career in terms of weight divisions & boxing decorations (multiple fighter of the years, knock out of the year, fighter of the decade) take out oscar, mosley, & margarito pac's resume still ****s on floyd hateful mayweather.

[oaklandstephen]

They both beat over the hill greats and prime good fighters. This thread is silly.

[mushahadeen]

u 4got 2 nclude sergio "maravagina" martinez's speciality: beating faded mediocre eurobums n japanese fishermen.

[etlux]

u 4got 2 nclude sergio "maravagina" martinez's speciality: beating faded mediocre eurobums n japanese fishermen.

lol this thread has nothing to do with maravilla and quite frankly he's no where near the level of either Floyd or Pac on a historical ATG basis