Who is boxing's most talented fighter?

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  • Jimbo16031992
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    #51
    If we're talking about guys that still fight and the talent they were BORN with - Roy Jones jr.

    Although I know we're talking about guys that still possess those talents, for me I go with Donaire. I think Mayweather is obviously up there, but part of his ability is down to the way he was brought up doing all the right things for a boxer. I love Gamboa, I always picked him over Juanma, but seeing how useless the legitimately brilliant Montiel unable to do anything to Donaire and then be almost decapitated by that single punch suggests to me that it's Donaire.

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    • F l i c k e r
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      #52
      Mayweather Jr.


      Pretty ridiculous actually. He just has everything. Everything you can not teach, he has all of it. His power may not be 1 hitter but he has it, at ww he simply doesn't take risks to show it off.

      And he has one thing Roy Jones never had..... a brain. You can't teach a brain. To be able to think 100 moves ahead of your opponent. With the ability to adjust on the fly. Ridiculous.


      Jorge Linares has a shyt load of talent as well. I just wonder when he is gonna live up to his full potential. 25 already held belts, it's time to step it up and show the world what you got. Nonito as well but I think he will end up like ricardo lopez. Ridiculous talent but can only take it so far... ****ing around at bantam and flyweight your whole career, you can't do much with all that talent.
      Last edited by F l i c k e r; 06-03-2011, 06:46 PM.

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      • Die Antwoord
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        #53
        Im the only one with a logical explanation. Vitali Klitschko took Lewis's uppercuts and wasnt knocked down, those would have knocked pacquiao or Floyd out of the ring, Vitali has the highest ko ratio of any hw champ, he'd kill any of the smaller guys in a fight, at almost 40 and after not turning fully to boxing until almost 26 he is champ at HW. None of the guys anyone has mentioned would come close to beating Vitali or even dare step in a ring with him. Best and most talented fighter in the world. If you want to go by weight classes...ie. handicaps, ok, then say so. Asking who's the most talented fighter in the world is and saying Manny Pacquaio is the equivalent of askeing who the best sprinter in the world is and picking 5 time Special Olympic 100m Hobbler Gold Medalist and World Record Holder Mornea Kevinson because you think his dominance in the special olympics means that if he had 2 legs he'd be the greatest runner. If you want to do p4p then say p4p, but if its whose the most talented fighter, its Vitali. Not even a question.

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        • F l i c k e r
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          #54
          Originally posted by Die Antwoord
          Im the only one with a logical explanation. Vitali Klitschko took Lewis's uppercuts and wasnt knocked down, those would have knocked pacquiao or Floyd out of the ring, Vitali has the highest ko ratio of any hw champ, he'd kill any of the smaller guys in a fight, at almost 40 and after not turning fully to boxing until almost 26 he is champ at HW. None of the guys anyone has mentioned would come close to beating Vitali or even dare step in a ring with him. Best and most talented fighter in the world. If you want to go by weight classes...ie. handicaps, ok, then say so. Asking who's the most talented fighter in the world is and saying Manny Pacquaio is the equivalent of askeing who the best sprinter in the world is and picking 5 time Special Olympic 100m Hobbler Gold Medalist and World Record Holder Mornea Kevinson because you think his dominance in the special olympics means that if he had 2 legs he'd be the greatest runner. If you want to do p4p then say p4p, but if its whose the most talented fighter, its Vitali. Not even a question.

          wow. if you want to say vitali then so be it but to say Vitali because "lennox's punches would have tossed floyd and pac out of the ring" is just absurd.

          ww =///= hw

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          • Die Antwoord
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            #55
            Originally posted by F l i c k e r
            wow. if you want to say vitali then so be it but to say Vitali because "lennox's punches would have tossed floyd and pac out of the ring" is just absurd.

            ww =///= hw
            hen say p4p, hence the special olympian vs. the real olympian. Foyd and Pac fight in a handicapped weight class. If it was an open weight class they wouldnt even be in the top 1,000 fighters. So say p4p. When you say who is the most talented fighter and dont clarify p4p, its a no brainer. Its like saying "who is the most talented basketball player" and choosing a WNBA "star" over Lebron or Kobe. Pac and Floyd are the equivalent of WNBA stars in this discussion. Either one could move up and fight Vitali, but they wont because they arent as talented at fighting. Simple as that. Its pretty much a no brainer. Vitali dominates the open weight class. If you like watching women's golf and the special olympics and lower weight classes more than open events, thats fine, but dont try to say the people who participate in handicapped sports could compete with the people who participate in open events.

            Its like if they made a basketball league for people under 5'5, lowered the hoop to 8 feet tall, and claiming that one of those dudes was better than D-Wade...its a joke.

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            • F l i c k e r
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              #56
              Originally posted by Die Antwoord
              hen say p4p, hence the special olympian vs. the real olympian. Foyd and Pac fight in a handicapped weight class. If it was an open weight class they wouldnt even be in the top 1,000 fighters. So say p4p. When you say who is the most talented fighter and dont clarify p4p, its a no brainer. Its like saying "who is the most talented basketball player" and choosing a WNBA "star" over Lebron or Kobe. Pac and Floyd are the equivalent of WNBA stars in this discussion. Either one could move up and fight Vitali, but they wont because they arent as talented at fighting. Simple as that. Its pretty much a no brainer. Vitali dominates the open weight class. If you like watching women's golf and the special olympics and lower weight classes more than open events, thats fine, but dont try to say the people who participate in handicapped sports could compete with the people who participate in open events.

              Its like if they made a basketball league for people under 5'5, lowered the hoop to 8 feet tall, and claiming that one of those dudes was better than D-Wade...its a joke.

              No.

              p4p means if they weighed the same and had similar proportions.

              So, if Vitali was the size of a WW would he dominate? Would he beat Floyd, Pacquiao or whomever have you?

              Same for Floyd and Pac. If they were 6'6" and 230 would they dominate Heavies? Would the beat the Vitali, Wlad, or womever have you?

              That is p4p. I don't want to trash your choice of Vitali, i think he is a damn good Heavyweight. But you misunderstood what p4p is.

              ps: Just because you win doesn't mean your heavily talented. Gatti won and he was very little talented. All heart, nothing else really.

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              • Manny#1ATG
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                #57
                Ok...we get it...you really like Vitali.

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                • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                  #58
                  Vitali was a good heavyweight. But he wasnt the most talented. He wasnt even close.

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                  • JM1
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Hi Hater
                    Personally, I think it's YG. Gamboa's talent is amazing. His hand speed, foot speed, and power are top notch. I love watching YG fight. I wish he fought more.

                    noone beats floyd in the talent department.

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                    • $tate of Mind
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Die Antwoord
                      hen say p4p, hence the special olympian vs. the real olympian. Foyd and Pac fight in a handicapped weight class. If it was an open weight class they wouldnt even be in the top 1,000 fighters. So say p4p. When you say who is the most talented fighter and dont clarify p4p, its a no brainer. Its like saying "who is the most talented basketball player" and choosing a WNBA "star" over Lebron or Kobe. Pac and Floyd are the equivalent of WNBA stars in this discussion. Either one could move up and fight Vitali, but they wont because they arent as talented at fighting. Simple as that. Its pretty much a no brainer. Vitali dominates the open weight class. If you like watching women's golf and the special olympics and lower weight classes more than open events, thats fine, but dont try to say the people who participate in handicapped sports could compete with the people who participate in open events.

                      Its like if they made a basketball league for people under 5'5, lowered the hoop to 8 feet tall, and claiming that one of those dudes was better than D-Wade...its a joke.
                      This is one of the funniest posts that I've ever seen.

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