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  • #21
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
    I dont know Chavez Jr. Will Zbik deserve accolades if he wins?
    You don't know Chavez Jr.??? How is that possible, he's the son of boxing legend Julio Cesar Chavez. And is trained by the great Freddie Roach at the famous Wild Card Gym.

    Aren't you a boxing fan?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
      You don't know Chavez Jr.??? How is that possible, he's the son of boxing legend Julio Cesar Chavez. And is trained by the great Freddie Roach at the famous Wild Card Gym.

      Aren't you a boxing fan?
      I haven't seen him fight. Obviously I'm very well aware of his dad, but is he Jr.'s only claim to fame?

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      • #23
        Well, Chavez Jr.'s biggest win was against John Duddy of Ireland. If you keep up with European boxers then maybe you are familiar with him.

        That is about the level Jr. is at, perhaps he will have improved some with the training camp for this fight.
        Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 06-01-2011, 05:44 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
          Well, Chavez Jr.'s biggest win was against John Duddy of Ireland. If you keep up with European boxers then maybe you are familiar with him.

          That is about the level Jr. is at, perhaps he will have improved some with the training camp for this fight.
          I know John 'Bloody' Duddy well.

          Looks like Jr. still has ways to go then. I suppose a win over Zbik, who's quite skilled, will show if he's ready for some bigger fish.

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          • #25
            Survey Says! 1. Yes

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
              Zbik is not very good, but he's perhaps better than Ameri-bums like Kirkland, Jacobs and Williams.
              Zbik sure as feck is not better than Williams.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                Zbik iz zhit.
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                I suppose a win over Zbik, who's quite skilled, will show if he's ready for some bigger fish.
                Hmm...so which is it? Is Zbik zhit or is he quite skilled?

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                • #28
                  Well after some analysis recently of both ( Since I don't follow either )

                  Zbik has a chance to out box Chavez. He is a counter puncher with movement. He can time Chavez with flurries and hold, or move. He's much like a pateint Kotelnik in that sense, a lack of power, decent technical skills, not too fast, but decent.

                  After looking at Chavez, he can be on the back foot as well. He has developed a jab, but has always been crap. His dad toyed with him in sparring years ago...

                  I mean Oscar was doing a fairly juat out of prime Chavez, so tuat shows you Jr's level. Chavez has OK speed, abd when he comes forward is very open. He is more snappy, but not powerful.


                  Oh and Zbik hits and holds too. It will be ugly.

                  I can see Zbik winning a UD, he isn't a whole bum if you compare him to jr. Zbik will have a problem of hitting those loud snappy shots, he doesn't do it, so he may not win on scorecards, but he can make it boring and make Chavez Jr look bad.


                  I give Zbik a 3-1 to win a UD, but Chavez Jr is the favourite. Both are unproven but Jr has the judges favor with the crowd.

                  It will be like Pavlik's recent fight. One guy is weak and hits pitty pats, while the other has slightly more. I felt Pavlik lost but he got the scorecards.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Faerun View Post
                    Zbik sure as feck is not better than Williams.
                    Zbik is nothing special, but he's never been put to sleep with one punch like Williams.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                      Hmm...so which is it? Is Zbik zhit or is he quite skilled?
                      Zbik iz Zhit was a little pun. He's decent. Nothing more. No pop. Ottke would pwn him. Easy.

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