Mayweather Snr on Pacquaio - Mosley, Hopkins - Pascal & Floyd - Ortiz

[shaps29]

It’s easy to say the guy is uneducated, speaks Ebonics, etc., but his life is boxing and knows the sport inside out. One thing Floyd Jr. has said is people don’t go from ordinary to extraordinary, and I don't think that Pac was ever ordinary but he was equal to JMM, as 24 rounds showed us and he did get outpointed by Morales. People usually don't get better in their 30's. All the things guys were doing in baseball the past 10 years defied all logic, eventually logic prevailed. Now Jose Bautista, a guy who's career high has been about 15 hr’s and wasn’t even a power hitter in the minors, has been Babe Ruth for the past 2 years. Will something be revealed eventually? Does everyone really think he's clean? If Pac destroys JMM when they fight what does that mean? That Pac has improved so dramatically? That’s like 2 guys who are equal in another sport, equal performance, stats, and then all of a sudden one guy is superior to the other and it's no competition that too would be illogical. I consider myself neutral and just want to see the fight, but you have to admit Pac’s career trend is very odd and unprecedented.

[Come∂ian]

So Floyd Is fighting Victor

[Alibata]

It’s easy to say the guy is uneducated, speaks Ebonics, etc., but his life is boxing and knows the sport inside out. One thing Floyd Jr. has said is people don’t go from ordinary to extraordinary, and I don't think that Pac was ever ordinary but he was equal to JMM, as 24 rounds showed us and he did get outpointed by Morales. People usually don't get better in their 30's. All the things guys were doing in baseball the past 10 years defied all logic, eventually logic prevailed. Now Jose Bautista, a guy who's career high has been about 15 hr’s and wasn’t even a power hitter in the minors, has been Babe Ruth for the past 2 years. Will something be revealed eventually? Does everyone really think he's clean? If Pac destroys JMM when they fight what does that mean? That Pac has improved so dramatically? That’s like 2 guys who are equal in another sport, equal performance, stats, and then all of a sudden one guy is superior to the other and it's no competition that too would be illogical. I consider myself neutral and just want to see the fight, but you have to admit Pac’s career trend is very odd and unprecedented.

Yeah because everything else the Mayweathers have said are educated.. A side meff is a fact homie... Look the logic you and sr. fails to see that for example,,,, sergio may win or lose to manny if they fought at 147 and they would say it was because sergio is too big for the weight... .. He may give manny a good fight, but most people would agree that Manny has the edge at that weight... Well Manny fighting at the lighter lighter weights he gave us great competitive fights but was not in at his natural weight. He was too big and naturally got better the more he fought at his natural weight.. They have given the tale of the tape of manny.. Measured calves, writs, chest, etc... And Manny is bigger than most 140lbers frame wise.. It was the same measurements he had when he fought at 126... Their was even a scientific study with wrist sizes involving manny and his power. *****s and Sr. fail to look at the real facts...

[etlux]

So Floyd Is fighting Victor

i don't think he said that. he just said floyd would woop victor and Sr. would have no problem with floyd fighting him.

[STFU!!]

see I told you guys.. he is one of the *****s major sources... Hey I am a natural 175 lbs.. If I tried to weigh 135 with my frame, I'd get knocked the hell out by smaller natural 135 lb men too.. @ 175 I think bigger men couldn't fold me as much as smaller men if I tried to make 135. Manny is a natrual 140 lb fighter.. Why do you think sergio won't go below a certain weight? Face it Manny got stronger and more durable because he got more natural.

fighting in your walk around weight doesn't make your chin stronger or give you more power. the guys he's hurting are naturally bigger than him. And if making weight hurt him so much what took him so long to move up, at 126 he weight 130 on the unofficial scales.

[LeeBaby]

see I told you guys.. he is one of the *****s major sources... Hey I am a natural 175 lbs.. If I tried to weigh 135 with my frame, I'd get knocked the hell out by smaller natural 135 lb men too.. @ 175 I think bigger men couldn't fold me as much as smaller men if I tried to make 135. Manny is a natrual 140 lb fighter.. Why do you think sergio won't go below a certain weight? Face it Manny got stronger and more durable because he got more natural.

Just because one sides with an opinion or stated facts from another doesnt make them a ***** or a *******. People are acting as if Sr has NO CLUE what he is talking about. The man is an ex fighter, comes from a family of fighters brothers, sons, nephews ect. The Mayweathers opinions are just as valid as Roach saying "Manny is clean". Regardless of how one feels personally about Manny or Floyd facts are facts. I understand people become fans and tend to ignore the "possibility of things" but face it, theres always a possibility.

In my mind...Manny isnt a real WW, yes he's been at the weight for a while and his body has settled but Ive never considered him a WW. If you go look at the Marquez those 2 fighers are the exact same size....What happened to Marquez when he gained weight is the same thing I expected from Manny when he gained weight.

And I know body types are different but Manny hasnt slowed down with the weight, hits harder then the guys at the weight, and takes punches from guys better then the guys at the weight.

People joke and say "Sr makes Manny seem unreal" considering the fact that NO MAN has ever conqured 8 divisions EVER!!!!! it seems to be just that...unreal

[STFU!!]

It’s easy to say the guy is uneducated, speaks Ebonics, etc., but his life is boxing and knows the sport inside out. One thing Floyd Jr. has said is people don’t go from ordinary to extraordinary, and I don't think that Pac was ever ordinary but he was equal to JMM, as 24 rounds showed us and he did get outpointed by Morales. People usually don't get better in their 30's. All the things guys were doing in baseball the past 10 years defied all logic, eventually logic prevailed. Now Jose Bautista, a guy who's career high has been about 15 hr’s and wasn’t even a power hitter in the minors, has been Babe Ruth for the past 2 years. Will something be revealed eventually? Does everyone really think he's clean? If Pac destroys JMM when they fight what does that mean? That Pac has improved so dramatically? That’s like 2 guys who are equal in another sport, equal performance, stats, and then all of a sudden one guy is superior to the other and it's no competition that too would be illogical. I consider myself neutral and just want to see the fight, but you have to admit Pac’s career trend is very odd and unprecedented.

he showed signs of slowing down against jmm in the second fight, the commentators at HBO said so, then a couple months later he moves up and destroys a guy naturally bigger than him. guys commentating said he looked stronger and faster, he looked new. and don't say **** about him developing a right hand, he was developing manilla ice for the second jmm fight.

[puga]

So Floyd Is fighting Victor

no...according to floyd sr's ugly ass, floyd would beat ortiz easily ,thus , no need to fight him.......

heres a hint:...ortiz is a powerful southpaw....you think floyd would fight him without a tune up?....shhiiitt!

[madsweeney]

So you can beat MAB, EM and JMM without PED's or any fighting skills?!?

[STFU!!]

no one said he was without skill, were simply saying he gets hurt by all them guys you mention except MAB, moves up and fights stronger guys and not get rocked and has more power. he didn't even put erik down in the first fight and he is dropping cotto and hatton, making oscar quit and he could have finished margo, but he set back. he started at 106, he himself stated in and interview that he really weighed 98 pounds and he had to put change in his pocket to be qualified to box. fighters in there 30's don't get stronger, it just never happens.