Comments Thread For: Kelly Pavlik Discusses His Many Options at 168-Pounds

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  • johnm is...
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    #21
    I've always thought Pavlik would beat Abraham.

    I'd like to see Pavlik/Kessler. I think Pavlik would be more competitive against Kessler than he would against Froch.

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    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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      #22
      Pavlik would batter Abraham for sure.

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      • deanrw
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        #23
        Pavlik is tough to figure. I think the biggest drawback now is he simply does not control range by jabbing like he used to. His Jab is what made him a tough opponent to deal with. It set everything up for him. He had a great hard jab, but he no longer shows it and fighters (even that Espina guy) could walk right into him.

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        • Stromprophet
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          #24
          Originally posted by texasboi15
          could the pavlik that beat alfonso beat sergio martinez?!
          Who knows what he can do if he gets himself right, confidence, momentum, etc.

          People gush over the Sergio fight with Pavlik. What's really surprising is despite Pavlik having lost to Hopkins (pretty confidence shattering that) Pavlik was making his way....

          *And he was winning that fight by the later middle rounds* (The Sergio Fight)

          Until his cut completely opened up and was gushing everywhere and not allowing him to see, he had figured out Sergio after losing the opening rounds. Sooooooooooooooooo....

          Yes. If Pavlik could get back to his former ways, he could beat Sergio. Could Sergio fight at 168? What would that look like. Does his power carry?

          I'm more interested to see Pavlik fight some of the other guys at 168 and continue to get back on. He needs to be fighting more often. Not even big fights. Sure, there's more risk if you lose, but he needs to get that KO confidence back.

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            #25
            Pavlik vs Abraham would be a superb fight to watch.

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              #26
              How about Pavlik vs. Lucian Bute? That is a better option for Bute than all of the tomato cans he is fighting.

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              • UglyPug
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                #27
                Originally posted by Stromprophet
                Taylor was pretty fast and good movement. So Kelly will never get that back?

                I think if he can get everything in order he can make a good run. He needs to keep guys at the end of his punches, but he had inside power before (miranda, zurtuchi).
                you're right, back then taylor was on top of his game, having been able to stymy B-Hop twice. so actually im anxious to see what he can do now that he's comfortable at 168. He did look good at the weigh-in, and I personally thought he looked like he had been doing some work on upper body movement as well.

                I wanna see Kelly succeed because I know he gets a lot of hate.

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                • Alec900
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                  #28
                  pavlik-abraham is a fight that should have happened 3 years ago.
                  back then,abraham would've KO'd him for sure,right now,I don't know

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                  • LeadUppercut
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by deanrw
                    Pavlik is tough to figure. I think the biggest drawback now is he simply does not control range by jabbing like he used to. His Jab is what made him a tough opponent to deal with. It set everything up for him. He had a great hard jab, but he no longer shows it and fighters (even that Espina guy) could walk right into him.
                    Hopkins stole Kelly's jab, he still has it, he will sell it on e-bay in 15-20 years

                    Now Loew has to start again at single before he works up to double the fkn jab.

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                    • LeadUppercut
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      How about Pavlik vs. Lucian Bute? That is a better option for Bute than all of the tomato cans he is fighting.
                      I dont know if thats a good style matchup for Pavlik at this point ?

                      Im up for AA/Pav

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