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  • Mikhnienko
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    #11
    Originally posted by puga
    not the exact words but this is what you said"...lara stops punching when his oppnent is punching"....did you not say that?....
    Originally posted by QUELOQUE
    Because Lara is an athletic, quick, good counter punching southpaw with good power, who wants to box and keep the fight on the outside...

    Forget about the fact P-Will is coming off of a devastating KO, doesn't that fit some sort of description?

    Keep looking at what happened against Molina if you want, but Williams-Lara is a tossup.
    and in the past when Williams was confronted with that in Quintana I he only threw 50 ppr. Both guys at their best have a style to present the other with problems. Lara has to bring his A game for sure though or he'll get ran over.

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      #12
      Lara is a FNF`s fighter. Williams should be ashamed if he doesn`t stop this guy.

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        #13
        Originally posted by QUELOQUE
        Because Lara is an athletic, quick, good counter punching southpaw with good power, who wants to box and keep the fight on the outside...

        Forget about the fact P-Will is coming off of a devastating KO, doesn't that fit some sort of description?

        Keep looking at what happened against Molina if you want, but Williams-Lara is a tossup.
        I wouldnt say a toss up. Lara is no Martinez. Or even a prime Quintana for that matter. He will have some good moments because of the reasons you named but he has awful stamina and has no idea what to do when an opponent aserts his will on him. He just bends over and covers his ears. He also is not an outside type of fighter. He wants the fight right in the middle of the ring and Lara is not light on his feet.

        Paul will pound him out, stop him late imo. Lara will be a test but a test that Paul should Ace with flying colors.
        Last edited by B.U.R.N.E.R; 05-27-2011, 10:48 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Mikhnienko
          and in the past when Williams was confronted with that in Quintana I he only threw 50 ppr. Both guys at their best have a style to present the other with problems. Lara has to bring his A game for sure though or he'll get ran over.
          Lara fights nothing like Quintana. I think his team rushed him in to this fight.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Mikhnienko
            and in the past when Williams was confronted with that in Quintana I he only threw 50 ppr. Both guys at their best have a style to present the other with problems. Lara has to bring his A game for sure though or he'll get ran over.
            Lara has fought nothing but bums on ESPN and the 1st good fighter he fought there he looked like ****. What makes you think he can hang with Williams? Altho Williams isn't all that either aside from his length he has been with elite fighters.

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              #16
              Originally posted by puga
              ok then....we all know very well that pwil does'nt stop puching..and you said lara stops punching when his opponent is...so, based on what you said lara aint a threat to pwill....
              He doesnt. The only thing Williams haters can hope for is that Paul has the "Roy Jones Sleep Syndrome". Lara is C Class.

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                #17
                Originally posted by johncods
                Lara is a FNF`s fighter. Williams should be ashamed if he doesn`t stop this guy.
                Really he should? Lara isnt some bum off the street.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                  Because Lara is an athletic, quick, good counter punching southpaw with good power, who wants to box and keep the fight on the outside...

                  Forget about the fact P-Will is coming off of a devastating KO, doesn't that fit some sort of description?

                  Keep looking at what happened against Molina if you want, but Williams-Lara is a tossup.
                  You are in for a rude awakening. Lara doesn't prefer the fight on the outside, he prefers it center ring. He is a flat footed, wide stances southpaw who eitehr squares up and ear muffs too much or drops his lead hand before punching too often. he also doesn't jab enough. This is a bad bad fight, it will be proven.

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                  • Heru
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Mikhnienko
                    and in the past when Williams was confronted with that in Quintana I he only threw 50 ppr. Both guys at their best have a style to present the other with problems. Lara has to bring his A game for sure though or he'll get ran over.
                    Exactly... Lara is not going to be walking into the helicopter blades. And unless you're walking toward, standing in front of, or constantly exchanging against high output fighters, you automatically cut into their output.

                    I expect Lara to be on the outside, try to strike first, and be on the move. He'll have to to win.
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    I wouldnt say a toss up. Lara is no Martinez. Or even a prime Quintana for that matter. He will have some good moments because of the reasons you named but he has awful stamina and has no idea what to do when an opponent aserts his will on him. He just bends over and covers his ears. He also is not an outside type of fighter. He wants the fight right in the middle of the ring and Lara is not light on his feet.

                    Paul will pound him out, stop him late imo. Lara will be a test but a test that Paul should Ace with flying colors.
                    He could, but as of right now, I see a back and forth fight, where either fighter can win. I might give a slight edge to P-Will, but Lara will give him all sorts of problems even in a losing effort.
                    Originally posted by intoccabile
                    You are in for a rude awakening. Lara doesn't prefer the fight on the outside, he prefers it center ring. He is a flat footed, wide stances southpaw who eitehr squares up and ear muffs too much or drops his lead hand before punching too often. he also doesn't jab enough. This is a bad bad fight, it will be proven.
                    Lara prefers being center ring, but is content having his opponent pressing him and fighting on the outside.

                    P-Will better hope his constant pressure and attack makes Lara stop in front of him and ear muff for extended periods of time because the fewer combinations he throws the less likely he wins.

                    Have people forgotten or are they just ignoring how leaky Paul's defense is against southpaws? He barely sees the straight lefts coming and Lara will be allowed to punch, so even if Williams does land a combination on Lara's earmuffs, 1-2 clean power shots will erase that.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                      Exactly... Lara is not going to be walking into the helicopter blades. And unless you're walking toward, standing in front of, or constantly exchanging against high output fighters, you automatically cut into their output.

                      I expect Lara to be on the outside, try to strike first, and be on the move. He'll have to to win.


                      He could, but as of right now, I see a back and forth fight, where either fighter can win. I might give a slight edge to P-Will, but Lara will give him all sorts of problems even in a losing effort.


                      Lara prefers being center ring, but is content having his opponent pressing him and fighting on the outside.

                      P-Will better hope his constant pressure and attack makes Lara stop in front of him and ear muff for extended periods of time because the fewer combinations he throws the less likely he wins.

                      Have people forgotten or are they just ignoring how leaky Paul's defense is against southpaws? He barely sees the straight lefts coming and Lara will be allowed to punch, so even if Williams does land a combination on Lara's earmuffs, 1-2 clean power shots will erase that.
                      I haven't forgotten at all, I'm just not sold on lara at all. Paul has a problem with unorthodox southpaws. Both Quintana and Martinez move a lot and prefer to throw at angles. Neither need to be set while throwing and throw whilst moving or whilst slpping. One of their traits.

                      Lara resets before every combination. Doesn't move often and ear muffs. Not to mention he's never been in with someone with Pauls experience OR physical gifts. He has a problem with his stamina, the Molina fight isn't the only sign of this. He always dictates the pace and still seems to show cardio problems ala Chad Dawson.

                      He gasses here, and looks bad in the process imo. Resets too much, ear muffs too much. It will look like the Wright fight more than anything no doubt, depending on how Paul bounces back from his last outing.

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