Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Marquez Tour To Start in Manila, End in Mexico

[LeadUppercut]

are you saying? jmm is required to hit exact 144 on weighing day? GTFOH. he can come in @ 135 if he wants to

Sure, and Pac can weigh whatever the *** he wants for Sergio.

Lets get it on

You hear that Pac ?

Huh?

Manny?

What..... ?

Pac..... hey, where did that kid go ?

[LeadUppercut]

Hey Leaderupperclit, WTF! You're still cryin'?! Grow up you f@G! no body wants a cry baby. Your the b!ggest clown around here posting the same crap over & over. Talk about a **** that won't move. For crying out loud Justin Timberlake? Can someone hand me a burrito so I can st!ck it up this guy's a$$? :****you:

I will give you a tip.....

Read your post, the one quoted above.

Now read mine, the one quoted below.....

I think that is a totally absurd thing to say..... RIDICULOUS, in fact.

Martinez, Bradley, Ward, Hopkins, Froch, ALL have a better recent resume than Pacquiao..... even my boy Mares outdoes Pac with Perez, Vic, then Agbeko.

Manny Pacquiao's last 7 opponents.....

Lately, a number of observers have commented that all of Manny Pacquiao's recent opponents have either been old, faded, or inept. Let's take a closer look at Pac's recent fights, and see if there is any truth to that allegation.....

Accusations leveled at Pacquiao include.....

* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Let's apply that criteria to Manny's last 7 opponents, and see how they stack up.

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David Diaz - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Oscar De La Hoya - Shot, drained, and shrink-wrapped.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Ricky Hatton - Not a top fighter, faded, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Miguel Angel Cotto - Badly faded / shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Joshua Clottey - Not a top fighter, and strangely innocuous.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Antonio Margarito - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Shane Mosley - Faded, shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

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All-in-all, that is a damn shabby line-up for a supposed P4P fighter, especially when you consider all of the advantages afforded to Pac during those fights..... e.g. fighting for a vacant JMW title, at catch-weight, against a BUM, and using 8oz gloves

Now, I can understand a top fighter taking the odd bout against a lesser opponent.....
but EVERY opponent in your last 7 fights?

How fkn lame is that ?

The last time Pacquiao fought a live dog was Marquez II, and according to a significant number of trainers/fighters/journalists/analysts..... HE LOST!!

SUMMARY: There is no question that Manny Pacquiao is a very carefully manufactured fighter with a padded resume'.

CAN... YOU... SEE... THE... DIFFERENCE ?

[LeadUppercut]

that's funny, I mean especially coming from a Mexican who brands themselves to be, well in the words of the great Legendary Eddie Guerrero: "We Lie, We Steal, We Cheat" lol Ariba La Raza! We are proud Mexico who can do no wrong! Don't gimme that ****! You Mexicans are lucky that we Americans give you the freedom to do your thing.:****you:

Look at this pig-ignorant b1tch. Manny must be so proud

[indystress]

i dont understand why pac haters keep saying "why not fight maritnez instead"?
they say "if marquez can weigh in at 135 on weigh in, then why cant pac just go at 144 on weigh in nite for martinez"?

the big difference u ignorant bunch of pac haters is that, both pac.marquez will weigh about the same on fight nite...whereas martinez can easily outweigh pac by close to 30lbs on fight nite

like i said, its like pac calling out the bantamweight king (and i would consider that to be funny as sh/t, hahaha)
and
like sergio martinez calling out the light heavyweight/cruiserweight king,..
having said all that,
why dont martinez call out either the champ of the light heavyweight or crusierweight, where martinez will be outweighed by as much as 30lbs...and see how he likes being on the weight/size disadvantage of about 30lbs

now if pac called out martinez, thats a different story. and if that fight happens, regardless of who called who out, im sure there will be a catchweight...then pac haters will cry "catchweight" again.

[PennyAnd1]

Look at this pig-ignorant b1tch. Manny must be so proud

and you're a proud f@ggot, good for you "peeleft:

[PennyAnd1]

Sure, and Pac can weigh whatever the *** he wants for Sergio.

Lets get it on

You hear that Pac ?

Huh?

Manny?

What..... ?

Pac..... hey, where did that kid go ?

The difference, you f@g, is that JMM for so long has already hit the 144lbs during fight nights. Pac never even passed the 148lbs limit during fight night. Purely oversized. so keep sucking.

[PennyAnd1]

I didn't know Floyd was a big WW? When did that happen?

When did that happen? Well FLoyd has been fighting at the WW level since 2005 against Judah. He even went up to 150lb against Dela Hoya, so by that time he fought JMM hell yeah he's a big WW. That's why he went over the limit, or did you forget?

And about 2 years ago about how Pacnuts b!tched about Floyd fighting JMM? Damn right we'll b!tch! We Pacnuts wanted FLoydiot to fight Pac, if not Pac then at least Margarito or Shane, not some small guy. And JMM was nowhere prepared body-wise for 144lbs during that time. Time do change things you know. And now, JMM should be comfortable fighting Pac around 142lb this time around. And besides, it's the trilogy that makes this fight attractive. And it's the most attractive fight out there for Pac right now.
I think Bob made the right decision. Give Bradley, Ortiz, and whoever to make more noise out there in order for them to raise up their stock. Then will Pac feed on that. Business my friend, business.

[JoeDaWg]

If it wasn't for a judges scoring error pac would be 2-0 against jmm. Why we need a third fight is beyond me. I like jmm, dude is a straight up warrior but this fight just doesn't make sense. Sure it will be exciting while it lasts but we've already seen this movie twice. We all know how its gonna end. Jmm is a stud, it will be sad to see him end his career with a savage beating...I guess he asked for it though so **** it. If he s willing to get his face smashed for 5 mill im willing to get drunk and watch it live. War warriors

[PennyAnd1]

pacquiao will never fight anybody at their best. this is called perfect timing cherry picking

I call it giving JMM an opportunity to pull off a Pac. Pac from 134 1/2 lbs went to 142 lbs to beat an Oscar @147, although Oscar went way down to 145, great warrior mentality but not a smart move.

Now JMM can go up from 134 lbs to 142 and fight Pac @144 lbs

[LeadUppercut]

The difference, you f@g, is that JMM for so long has already hit the 144lbs during fight nights. Pac never even passed the 148lbs limit during fight night. Purely oversized. so keep sucking.

The difference is. I understand boxing, but you are just a pig-ignorant fanboy.

I have already explained to you that the amount of muscle-mass and conditioning that you can take into a fight is solely determined at the official weigh-in, rehydration weight is completely irrelevant and can even be detrimental.

Marquez is a lightweight you fkn idiot.

Tell me, why do you think that boxing has weight divisions ?

Go on, tell me why YOU think that boxing requires weight divisions.

Ya dumb kid.