Teddy Atlas: "Mayweather Beats Pacquiao Handily."

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  • BoZz
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    #31
    dt – i understand. Pacquiao is merely an event fighter. Not some great champion who defended his title against top competitors. Agree or disagree?

    Ta – let’s take a look at his career. Because his opponents have been handpicked, they are flawed in more areas than the average opponent. Let’s go back to the beginning of this journey, the beginning of the gravy train….it started with someone named de la hoya. He was a shot fighter, fighting at a weight that was sure to drain him of any strength or stamina. Even at his best, de la hoya never won a big fight, more importantly; he was a fighter well, well, beyond his prime. Next up was ricky hatton, a fighter who was exposed by floyd mayweather and others as an extremely flawed fighter who always left himself open for punches down the middle. I believe miguel cotto was next up and of course he was damaged goods. At the time he fought pacquiao, he was severely damaged physically, emotionally, and mentally from the beating he took from margarito. Clottey was another guy that was mentally defective, he never fought with any real confidence, never took any real risk, a guy who's style was to cover up. Clottey throws very few punches and there is that saying in boxing that you can't be in the fight if you don't throw punches. His temperament was to be very safe. Guys like that are more inclined to stay covered when they have a fast handed guy in front of them. Now we get to margarito. He is a slow guy who was never good technically he got exposed by mosley who showed that margarito is a very slow fighter who is not hard to find in the ring. Pretty much a one dimensional fighter. Let's add to the mix that he had to make a weight that was going to hurt his chances in the fight. Sure enough he drained himself just to make weight and you could visibly see that he looked drained. You take a look at his face....bones and cheeks...he looked emaciated and when he got into the ring he behaved that way....a fighter very game, very slow but most importantly very weak. The one advantage that he should have is his strength and power which was taken away from him by having to make the weight. Now, when we look comprehensively, intelligently, and fairly, every single one of those guys have major flaws. For all the credit and adoration pacquiao got by the promotional machines, the publicity machines, the pay per view networks, the only thing great about his opponents is their names. Everything else was flawed.
    this......................

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      #32
      Originally posted by WALTER WHITE
      http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Tyler052511.htm

      Once again, Teddy hatin' on Pac. The interview is quite long so I'm not posting it here.

      I agree with him about Pac's opponents the past few years (Clottey, Margarito, Mosley), but Atlas is definitely a hater. His perspective on Pac is also quite myopic. I just don't understand why he hates Pacquiao so much. Is it because of Arum? Or Roach? I still remember him praising Pac years ago when Pac was fighting Hatton. Has Teddy forgotten Pac's epic fights and wins over Barrera, Morales, and Marquez?

      Is Atlas just a jilted fan who wants Pacquiao to fight the best?

      Back when Atlas was still praising Pacquiao to the skies:


      He doesnt hate Pac , he is giving his honest opinion of what he sees , how does somebody saying what thy think with logical explained reasons and given with respect , and its taken as hate ,, *** me this board is nuts .

      Manny has lots of BS around his fights from Diaz on .

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        #33
        Originally posted by Mr. Roach
        I think Teddy Atlas thinks that Arreola is better P4P then Pac, considering the way he praises the guy and bashes Pac.
        I think it's cause of the fact that Arreola fought the best he can fight, in a losing effort of course, but fought the best. Adamek was coming off wins over solid HW's, emphasis on coming off wins. Vitali was the #2 best HW. And basically Adamek and Vitali are not considered shot/past prime, or Arreola having an advantage over them, or coming off losses.

        Sure Arreola's last couple of fights have been against stiffs but that's because he's working his way back up to get a fight with the top guys again, he just can't pick a top guy like that.

        That's why it's very easy to root for Arreola rather than Pacquiao[since you mentioned them]. Arreola fighting stiffs as tune ups, Pacquiao fighting stiffs for his mega fights, while avoiding the guys coming off good wins and not considered shot and past prime.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          He doesnt hate Pac , he is giving his honest opinion of what he sees , how does somebody saying what thy think with logical explained reasons and given with respect , and its taken as hate ,, *** me this board is nuts .

          Manny has lots of BS around his fights from Diaz on .
          Yeah Right?! I bet every Pac-haters like you and Teddy Atlas are all "Honest with their Opinions" Right?!

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            #35
            Originally posted by Bullrush
            here we go again. somebody doesnt kiss pacs ass and now hes a hater

            floyd is the best at not getting hit. pac struggles against counter punchers, his defense is terrible. he struggled a lot and and got rocked by JMM. floyd shredded him. and now pac is ducking martinez, and martinez also said that he would knock out pac and that floyd would give him a better fight. its not just atlas dude
            he even got knocked down by a shot mosley who mayweather would have killed that day

            he hit the nail on the head
            You are a F****ing hater as well!!! Manny was pushed by Mosley obviously even if you were watching with both eyes closed because the commentators you will hear were saying it on live TV that Manny was pushed!!! MORON!!!

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              #36
              Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
              I think it's cause of the fact that Arreola fought the best he can fight, in a losing effort of course, but fought the best. Adamek was coming off wins over solid HW's, emphasis on coming off wins. Vitali was the #2 best HW. And basically Adamek and Vitali are not considered shot/past prime, or Arreola having an advantage over them, or coming off losses.

              Sure Arreola's last couple of fights have been against stiffs but that's because he's working his way back up to get a fight with the top guys again, he just can't pick a top guy like that.

              That's why it's very easy to root for Arreola rather than Pacquiao[since you mentioned them]. Arreola fighting stiffs as tune ups, Pacquiao fighting stiffs for his mega fights, while avoiding the guys coming off good wins and not considered shot and past prime.
              I'm talking about his last fight, when he stopped some bum and kissed him right after the referee stopped the fight.

              The guy he's fighting this weekend is 22-14-2, definitaly similar to Pac's opponents.

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                #37
                Originally posted by ShoguNinja
                Yeah Right?! I bet every Pac-haters like you and Teddy Atlas are all "Honest with their Opinions" Right?!
                But the content you cant argue against , so just say hater , oh ok kid .

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                  #38
                  considering teddy atlas credibility.....................ill pass

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by STRUGG
                    considering teddy atlas credibility.....................ill pass
                    Considering your a fanboy thats a good move .

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Reloaded
                      Considering your a fanboy thats a good move .
                      nope.............considering teddy atlas batting average............

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