Andre Ward vs James Toney

**sammiza567** · 05-25-2011, 05:23 PM

at this point in time toney. but i do think ward is still growing as a fighter.

**Perfect Plex** · 05-25-2011, 05:28 PM

6-0 James...........

**Gordon_Gekko** · 05-25-2011, 05:31 PM

Ward has a shot if it's in Oakland

**Bushbaby** · 05-25-2011, 05:38 PM

Right now,James Toney isn't making 168 & if he did,he gets the brakes beat of him.Prime Toney vs Ward would have been a close competitive fight because Tony was a beast.But Ward finds ways to win so it would have been Toney's natural talent vs Wards desire 50/50 fight.

**Steak** · 05-25-2011, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Gordon_Gekko

Ward has a shot if it's in Oakland

what a ridicuous statement. for a number of reasons.

Ward is going to have to do a lot of improving before I believe he would have beaten a prime Toney. However, if Toney came in out of shape and badly unprepared, I can see Ward winning a decision.

**TheSlickster** · 05-25-2011, 05:57 PM

Toney right now imo. Jones just had Toney's number. i don't think a prime BHop, Calzaghe, Eubank or Benn would've defeated him.

But if Ward defeats the Super Six winner, defeats Bute, and defeats the top dog at 175...then it'd be a toss up.

**MARKBNLV** · 05-25-2011, 05:59 PM

Prime vrs Prime James Murders him.

**bojangles1987** · 05-25-2011, 06:02 PM

If we are talking prime, then Ward hasn't done anywhere near enough to be in a conversation like this. Toney would easily win until Ward proves otherwise with his competition.

**j.one** · 05-25-2011, 06:04 PM

Prime Toney destroys Ward, I think alot of Andre ward but I followed James since the 90's and can speak to the fact that he was superior in every way to Ward at the lower weights. No dis to ward I think he is #2 p4p behind Sergio, but Prime Toney was faster slicker more aggressive and had better defense than Ward does at this point.

Andre Ward vs James Toney