Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez: Mayweather Would Last, Pacquiao I'd KO

[hypodermical]

What a fkn idiot kid.

You are a pig-ignorant fanboy clown for insinuating that Mayweather ducked Margarito and Clottey.

Margarito was NEVER a top fighter, and since Mosley has looked like a well-faded bum. Only non-boxing Manny fanboys rate Margarito, you guys are a joke.

If Mayweather fought Margarito it would be exactly like Corrales except without all of the falling down (RIP Chico). It would be Baldo II.

Clottey?

Really ?

Just *** off, no comments required.

Cotto ducked Mayweather twice, so you have proven yourself to be nothing but an inept fanboy who runs with lame pre-owned rhetoric.

" So why discredit Pac and adore Floyd??? "

Well, the " adore Floyd " comment is a little strong, but I'll show you....

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW opponent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for being such a cherry-picker.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
* And at JMW, Manny will not fight anybody at all

7.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

You're a moron. When Floyd was in WW. The top WW's were Mosley, Cotto, Williams, Margarito.
Did he fight any of them??? Nope. He retired.

When Pac moved up to WW, he fought Cotto, who was at the time #2-3 WW.
And then fought Clottey, Marg, and Mosley.
Did Pac fight THEEEE Best of the WW's after Cotto. NO. Did he fight bums? NO. Are you a moron hater? Yes.

If he didn't fight those guys, you'd say he ducked THEM you ****ing hypocrite hater. The truth is you'll never give Pac credit.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I don't see why Floyds groupies are happy. What Serg is saying is that he knows Manny will stand and trade with him while Floyd will run away.

But with their logic, they somehow see this as a victory.

Strange lot I tell ya.

[The MiZ]

I dont even no if Mayweather would last, Pac would defo get a KO the way he fights.

[The MiZ]

Martinez, Mayweather and Pacquaio are all............

[LeadUppercut]

You're a moron. When Floyd was in WW. The top WW's were Mosley, Cotto, Williams, Margarito.
Did he fight any of them??? Nope. He retired.

When Pac moved up to WW, he fought Cotto, who was at the time #2-3 WW.
And then fought Clottey, Marg, and Mosley.
Did Pac fight THEEEE Best of the WW's after Cotto. NO. Did he fight bums? NO. Are you a moron hater? Yes.

If he didn't fight those guys, you'd say he ducked THEM you ****ing hypocrite hater. The truth is you'll never give Pac credit.

You are full of ****, the top ranked ww's were Judah / Baldomir.

Mayweather called out Cotto, and Bob Arum publicly stated that Cotto wasnt ready.

Nobody took that giraffe P-Will seriously at ww, otherwise..... wouldn't Pac have fought him?

And Margarito..... wake up dopey, that clown was NEVER a top fighter.

Only Pac fanboys rate Margarito.

Actually, cheato did pretty well, he nearly put himself in a position to make a genuine push for a Mayweather fight, but then he got his ass kicked. NO, not by Shane..... by PAUL WILLIAMS.

Your post was full of inaccuracies and the same old whiney excuses..... why dont you at least research before you spout off the same old Pac rhetoric?

[LeadUppercut]

You're a moron. When Floyd was in WW. The top WW's were Mosley, Cotto, Williams, Margarito.
Did he fight any of them??? Nope. He retired.

When Pac moved up to WW, he fought Cotto, who was at the time #2-3 WW.
And then fought Clottey, Marg, and Mosley.
Did Pac fight THEEEE Best of the WW's after Cotto. NO. Did he fight bums? NO. Are you a moron hater? Yes.

If he didn't fight those guys, you'd say he ducked THEM you ****ing hypocrite hater. The truth is you'll never give Pac credit.

BTW, I never said they were all bums, I said that Manny's opponents since Marquez II have ALL been either old men, faded champions, or bums

[hypodermical]

You are full of ****, the top ranked ww's were Judah / Baldomir.

Mayweather called out Cotto, and Bob Arum publicly stated that Cotto wasnt ready.

Nobody took that giraffe P-Will seriously at ww, otherwise..... wouldn't Pac have fought him?

And Margarito..... wake up dopey, that clown was NEVER a top fighter.

Only Pac fanboys rate Margarito.

Actually, cheato did pretty well, he nearly put himself in a position to make a genuine push for a Mayweather fight, but then he got his ass kicked. NO, not by Shane..... by PAUL WILLIAMS.

Your post was full of inaccuracies and the same old whiney excuses..... why dont you at least research before you spout off the same old Pac rhetoric?

uhuh, what were Judah and Baldomir doing during floyd's retirement? Who were the top guys during floyd's retirement? you're hilarious.

Who beats Cotto, Marg, Clottey in WW right now? Pac, Floyd, Ortiz, Maybe Cintron THATS IT. Pac ACTUALLY FOUGHT THEM.

Cotto, Marg, Clottey, Willams and Mosley were the top WWs and they all managed to fight each other. Floyd ****ing retired to duck them, when he was the top guy in that weight class.

[Lineal Champ]

What a fkn idiot kid.

You are a pig-ignorant fanboy clown for insinuating that Mayweather ducked Margarito and Clottey.

Margarito was NEVER a top fighter, and since Mosley has looked like a well-faded bum. Only non-boxing Manny fanboys rate Margarito, you guys are a joke.

If Mayweather fought Margarito it would be exactly like Corrales except without all of the falling down (RIP Chico). It would be Baldo II.

Clottey?

Really ?

Just *** off, no comments required.

Cotto ducked Mayweather twice, so you have proven yourself to be nothing but an inept fanboy who runs with lame pre-owned rhetoric.

" So why discredit Pac and adore Floyd??? "

Well, the " adore Floyd " comment is a little strong, but I'll show you....

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW opponent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for being such a cherry-picker.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
* And at JMW, Manny will not fight anybody at all

7.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

LMAO at you calling Pac a b*tch.

Well known fact in the black community Mayweather is the biggest b*tch made puss* of them all. He gets clowned on by his own kind. The f is that all about?

Manny put the sport on his back while Floyd enjoying the biggest fraud retirement in sports history.

Everyone knew he b*tched out because all the prime WW at the time Margarito and Cotto were all calling him out. What a coincidence. He waited until Shane was old and overtrained to fight him.

Hes trying to do the same with Manny. Hes waiting until 2014 so he can call him out. LMAO b*tch made came in overweight to fight 5'4 Marquez whom forced up 2 weight classes.

You can have your opinion on who Manny has fought. The only thing is he's fought them and beat them all. While you guys out there saying oh yeah Floyd PROBABLY beats them all. LMAO the biggest Joke/Fraud in Professional Sports GTFO. **** dont belong in boxing.

[joelab75]

Sergio will get his wish in the future. Pac will kill him. Only pac haters will say otherwise. Let them fight in 151 lbs and sergio die in the ring. Facts. Calling out pac and asking to fight in a 154lbs is plain ******. Cant accept the fact the pac is a cashcow, the best in the world, the best for the last 12 yrs, atg's guaranteed hall of famer and 8 division champ. What has sergio accomplished? Thats right, NOTHING. Keep on hating haters!!!

[LeadUppercut]

Kid, give yourself an uppercut, look at what you just wrote

Who beats Cotto, Marg, Clottey in WW right now?..... maybe..... Cintron THATS IT.

Why the *** should I take you seriously after reading that ?

Lets take a closer look at " Cotto, Marg, Clottey ".....

Miguel Cotto.....

When Pacquiao fought Cotto, Miguel had just been destroyed by Margarito and then battered by Clottey. EVERY reputable trainer/reporter/analyst said that Cotto looked shop-worn and well-faded, and that he had been in too many wars.

Cotto was not on top of his game, he had begun to slide, he had no trainer to speak of, and was struggling with problems both in camp and at home relating to a family matter that affected his relationship with head trainer Evan Cotto.

Miguel was not on top of his game, and he most certainly was not in his prime..... plus, Pacquiao tried to drain him on the scales.

Listen to this reporter's take on the subject, shortly after the Clottey fight....

"I wasn’t exactly shocked to see Manny Pacquiao’s name being linked for a fight with Miguel Cotto after the Puerto Rican fighters disappointing performance last Saturday night against Joshua Clottey. As bad as Cotto looked in the fight, and believe me Cotto looked pretty awful, it seemed like a no brainer that Pacquiao would then select him as his next opponent.

But my question is why isn’t Pacquiao going after Shane Mosley or Paul Williams instead? Why the emphasis at fighting Cotto, when he was destroyed by Antonio Margarito last year? It seems to me the much better choice for Pacquiao would be to go after Mosley, since he beat Margarito a few months ago by a 9th round TKO.

Since Margarito has already stopped Cotto, the logical choice for Pacquiao to fight would be Mosley. That’s the bout that Pacquiao should be going after unless he wants to be considered a cherry picker."

Pacquiao saw that Cotto was ripe, so he jumped on him, but even the fact that Cotto had faded was not enough of an advantage for Manny..... so he demanded a catch-weight of 145lbs.

A catch-weight, for a title fight..... *** me, that is lame.

Cotto of course, flatly refused. Miguel stated "147 if you want my title, but no-title if you need a catchweight". Of course, Pac demanded a catchweight and the title, it became a sticking point to get the fight made, so Cotto was forced to concede.

But even that was not enough for Manny, he demanded 143, even though his trainer Freddie Roach agreed to 144. Luckily for Miguel he stuck to his guns, or those cherry-picking ****s would have dragged him down to 143lbs.....
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/275865

Catch-weights.....

There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....

1.) you are not good enough to compete with your opponent at his natural weight

2.) you are attempting to drain your opponent to gain an unfair advantage

Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

The 143lb demand was an absolute joke, they really tried to do a number on Cotto. Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.

FACT: When Mayweather called out Cotto, he did not catch him on the slide, Cotto had not been battered by Margarito, Cotto was a champion in his prime and he was right on top of his game,..... and Mayweather does not attempt to drain his opponents like Manny attempted to do with Cotto.

Why the *** would you even mention Cotto?

I would actually suggest that you change the subject

Antonio Margarito.....

When Pac fought Margarito he was a slow, plodding, faded, shop-worn, mediocre, welterweight BUM, with no KO power, who could not have beaten any of the top welter's, and who had just been KTFO by old man Mosley..... he had also just been banned from boxing for 12 months for loading his gloves.

Pacquiao fought that welterweight bum at JMW, for a vacant title, at catchweight, using 8oz gloves.

When cheato punked up to Mayweather on camera - which is nearly his greatest achievment in boxing - he was a lot younger, a lot fresher, and he was coming off wins against Cintron and Clottey.

But, I guess you dont really see the difference there ?

Get real, Marga****to was NEVER a top fighter, your adoration of him simply because Manny beat him..... is absurd. That is like me saying that Pac ducked Maidana at 140, or that he is ducking Zaveck. Wake up.

Joshua " I promise not to hurt you " Clottey.....

Do you mean..... the Josh Clottey who appeared to be able to easily hit and hurt his opponent at will, but for some strange reason..... chose not to ?

Is that the Clottey that you are referring to ?

The Clottey who was essentially finished as a top fighter, the one who had exhausted all of his chances - except for Manny of course - the booby-prize Josh Clottey who landed a Pac fight when Manny pulled out of the Mayweather negotiations citing refusal to submit to random blood tests..... is that the Clottey you are referring to?

The Clottey that gave these excuses.....

1.) " I don't know how to explain..... "

2.) " I really don't understand what happened to me in that fight..... "

3.) " I just think it was one of those things..... "

4.) " I don't know what happened..... "

5.) " I knew I could hurt him when I threw my power shots..... "

6.) " I didn't feel like his punches really hurt me..... "

7.) " I felt OK after..... "

8.) " there are so many reasons the fight happened the way it did..... "

Well, I guess that you were too busy watching Pac and frantically waving your Manny-flag whilst being super careful not to spill beer on your new Manny t-shirt to notice that the other guy chose to completely ignore the two most important instincts that a fighter like Clottey has.

I certainly hope that he invested his 30 pieces of silver wisely.

Only a flag-waving clown would rate Clottey as a top fighter or give Manny any credit for that win. It was a fkn exhibition match designed by Top Rank to make Manny look good after the failed Mayweather negotiations.

Clottey had Pac on the ropes after out-punching him in round 6 (was it?) and then all of a sudden he stopped punching, backed up to the middle of the ring, Manny came forward, Clottey gloved up, and then away Pac went..... just like clockwork.

I have only ever seen that happen in the gym.

The kool-aid, combined with your lack of experience and foresight..... has clouded your judgement