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  • Originally posted by Uncle Sam View Post
    But I thought Manny was draining himself at those lower weights? That's why he always came in as a WW on fight night...
    People say a lot of things, it is all about judging for yourself. If you can cut weight and be healthy fair play, if you cut weight and it costs you opps you fucked up~.

    It is a double edged sword that is not without risks~

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    • Sergios getting on my nerves a bit now. Is he playing mind games as he badly wants to fight Pac and hopes he will anger Pac by talking trash?

      When do you hear Pac talk about how hed knock Donaire out if he moved up?

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      • If you are challenging Manny Pacquiao to his belt, then don't just talk. Go down to his weight. Now if Manny Pacquiao is the challenger to your belt, then it is his obligation to go up your weight. As a professional boxer you should know that rule. You are saying you can not make it down to a weight that Manny Pacquiao carries comfortably in his division, then stop whining. Do not talk silly, you are making your self look like a ****** loser...do not forget that you are also a champion in your own weight division.

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        • Originally posted by richardt View Post
          ""Paul Williams is 6 ft 1 in tall and Andre Ward is 6 ft tall... so why Sergio dont want to fight Andre Ward? see the hypocrisy? hahahaha"""". That is right!! And Mosley at 154 and Oscar at 160 showed what happens, they lost. Sergio has the balls to fight the smaller pac but not the 168 guys.
          PDub is actually 6'2", not 6'1, but that's neither her nor there. Unfortunately there is no "hypocrisy" as you claim when we examine Pac & Sergio side by side:

          (1) Sergio never fought at super middleweight
          (2) Pac did fight at light middle weight bout and won a WORLD TITLE (and yes, now we see the cheating of history scenario play out b/c a catchweight for this world title holds no "weight"/ in this side by side analysis that you've created, i.e. Pac won a 154 pound belt and is recognized in that divison...no record whatsoever of Sergio being recognized on ANYTHING higher than 160 lbs
          (3) Sergio aint asking Pac to come up to 160, it's back down to light middle
          (4) Your side by side comparison holds "weight" if Ward was coming down to 162, but he's not, it would be at 168 which we've already established is the recognize scale at super middle which Sergio has never fought at.

          You *******s love to have your cake and eat it too...but your arguments fall flat on its face with side by side analysis breakdowns where you refuse to do the MATH on weights, divisions etc. SILLY RABBITS!

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          • Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
            dinzurik was a top jmw. to say otherwise is silly.
            thank you! some dudes just come on the scene and say anything even if its not true.

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            • Originally posted by rasdun View Post
              Now Marquez is not a live opponent?
              Also, I never heard that he was draining himself. In fact, he could probably make 135 pretty easily considering he fights at 144-145 while trying to keep lbs on, not take lbs off.
              Did some ridiculous Pac fan make that excuse for his close fights wit Marquez - maybe - but it's not something that has ever been legitimized. He never claimed that he was drained - did he?
              did i ever say marquez was not a live opponent?yes team pac did make mention of pacquiao having weight problems but thats how they do they make a bunch of excuses for bad perfomances and losses like when they said manny had the wrong sox or he didn't win because he didn't have reyes gloves or he got blood drained before the fight or his leg was cramping

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              • Originally posted by Saddlebred View Post
                Lol at how pac shrinks through this thread...by page 60 he will actually be 5'2" when he isn't in his boots! lmao!!!
                Haha he won't be able to ride the rides at Disneyland by the time its over, funny **** man

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                • Originally posted by tomatocantender View Post
                  PDub is actually 6'2", not 6'1, but that's neither her nor there. Unfortunately there is no "hypocrisy" as you claim when we examine Pac & Sergio side by side:

                  (1) Sergio never fought at super middleweight
                  (2) Pac did fight at light middle weight bout and won a WORLD TITLE (and yes, now we see the cheating of history scenario play out b/c a catchweight for this world title holds no "weight"/ in this side by side analysis that you've created, i.e. Pac won a 154 pound belt and is recognized in that divison...no record whatsoever of Sergio being recognized on ANYTHING higher than 160 lbs
                  (3) Sergio aint asking Pac to come up to 160, it's back down to light middle
                  (4) Your side by side comparison holds "weight" if Ward was coming down to 162, but he's not, it would be at 168 which we've already established is the recognize scale at super middle which Sergio has never fought at.

                  You *******s love to have your cake and eat it too...but your arguments fall flat on its face with side by side analysis breakdowns where you refuse to do the MATH on weights, divisions etc. SILLY RABBITS!

                  you want basic MATH?

                  Weight at FIGHT NIGHT:
                  Pac ==> 146 - 148 lbs
                  Sergio ==> 168 - 177lbs

                  Then if you will put margacheato on the equation, again, then lets put the 150lbs catchweight and we can ignore Weight at FIGHT NIGHT...

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                  • Originally posted by Dan Gutierrez View Post
                    If you are challenging Manny Pacquiao to his belt,
                    Originally posted by Dan Gutierrez View Post
                    then don't just talk. Go down to his weight. Now if Manny Pacquiao is the challenger to your belt, then it is his obligation to go up your weight. As a professional boxer you should know that rule. You are saying you can not make it down to a weight that Manny Pacquiao carries comfortably in his division, then stop whining. Do not talk silly, you are making your self look like a ****** loser...do not forget that you are also a champion in your own weight division.
                    pac holds a 154lb strap remember? the title he won vs cheato in the first match they both had at 154. so sergio is asking him to defend the title he won at 154. whats wrong with that?

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                    • Serg would seriously *** up the world champion at 154lbs Manny Pacquiao. Pac can make 154, Serg can so why can't the fight happen? Can we finally admit that Manny Pac's victory at 154 was one of the biggest jokes in recent boxing history?

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