Comments Thread For: Photos: Vitali Klitschko, Tomasz Adamek Face To Face

[vacon04]

Yeah but let's see Wlad vs Haye

Wlad is going to weight about 245 and is 6'6''
Haye is going to weight about 215-220 and is 6'3''

Now Vitali vs Adamek

Vitali is going to weight about 250 and is 6'7''
Adamek is going to weight about 215 and is 6''1 1/2'

The difference in both fights is really big. Yeah both Adamek and Haye are faster than the Klitschko brothers, but the weight difference is a lot, and let's remember than it's not 25+ pounds more of fat, but of muscle and therefore strenght.

I don't think any of them (Adamek or Haye) are going to be able to finish the fight. Both Vitali and Wlad by KO in less than 10 rounds.

[FrankieBruno]

Yeah but let's see Wlad vs Haye

Wlad is going to weight about 245 and is 6'6''
Haye is going to weight about 215-220 and is 6'3''

Now Vitali vs Adamek

Vitali is going to weight about 250 and is 6'7''
Adamek is going to weight about 215 and is 6''1 1/2'

The difference in both fights is really big. Yeah both Adamek and Haye are faster than the Klitschko brothers, but the weight difference is a lot, and let's remember than it's not 25+ pounds more of fat, but of muscle and therefore strenght.

I don't think any of them (Adamek or Haye) are going to be able to finish the fight. Both Vitali and Wlad by KO in less than 10 rounds.

these guys are HW's if a 215 pounder hits you flush in the face you are most likely going to fall down like a big tree in the forrest

i would not look into the weight issue to much, speed, footwork and combinations will determine the winner. Haye and Adamek don't plan to stand infront of the Klitschos like fat overweight slobs and get jabbed all night. The game plan will be to make them run around the ring until they gas out.

Tyson use to come in light and knock giants out and he was only 5,9....

[vacon04]

these guys are HW's if a 215 pounder hits you flush in the face you are most likely going to fall down like a big tree in the forrest

i would not look into the weight issue to much, speed, footwork and combinations will determine the winner. Haye and Adamek don't plan to stand infront of the Klitschos like fat overweight slobs and get jabbed all night. The game plan will be to make them run around the ring until they gas out.

Tyson use to come in light and knock giants out and he was only 5,9....

I have to disagree. You're saying "i would not look into the weight issue to much, speed, footwork and combinations will determine the winner."

Well in that case let's analyze the boxers.

Speed: Haye is faster than Wladimir and Adamek is faster than Vitali.

Combinations: Haye throws faster combinations than Wladimir, and therefore throws more punches in a row. Adamek throws faster combinations than Vitali and also throws more punches in a row.

Footwork: In this case it's a little harder to analyze. Haye and Adamek are faster moving aroung the ring than Wlad and Vitali, however Wlad and Vitali know how to close the ring to their rivals, so they don't actually need to move too much around the ring to get close to their rivals and throw hard punches.

Weight and height DO have a lot to do with the fight. Wlad and Vitali have a lot of range, they can throw punches that hit their rivals, but their opponents can't counter them because well they can't reach them. When it comes to weight, it makes a massive difference. Vitali and Wladimir are some of the hardest punchers of all times, they have a lot of mass and even without great acceleration they manage to create massive amounts of force. Haye and Adamek are strong, but you can't actually say that they hit harder than Vitali and Wlad because it wouldn't be true.

I know that Adamek and Haye are not going to stand in front of Klitschkos to take punches, but it's absolutely impossible that they're not going to get jabbed during the fight, well unless they startrunning for their life and forget about winning the fight. If they actually want to hit Vitali and Wlad they're going to have to take chances and get close sometimes, and Klitschko brothers hit hard as hell.

I do get that the strategy is going to be to move around and try to gas out Wlad and Vitali, but I don't really believe that they can afford to move around the ring for 8 or 9 rounds and then start trying to get close and win rounds. They need to be agressive, if they don't, then I truly believe that they're going to get KOd pretty fast. Well even if they're not, they can also be KOd pretty fast.

[Mikhnienko]

In all honesty, I thought the height difference would have been much more pronounced, but it seems Adamek is taller than I had imagined. Adamek is obviously the underdog and it will take every ounce of skill, heart and determination he possesses to defeat the juggernaut that is Vitali. Very interesting match-up for me personally.

Same

Vitali is 6'7 and will probably come in at 245+. Adamek is 6'1 and will be weighing 215 pounds. That's a big difference man.

Adamek has to be at least 6'2 - 6'2 1/2. Maybe as tall as 6'3


6'3 1/2 - 6'4 Arreola





6'3 Cunningham



6'4 Golota

[vacon04]

Same



Adamek has to be at least 6'2 - 6'2 1/2. Maybe as tall as 6'3


6'3 1/2 - 6'4 Arreola





6'3 Cunningham



6'4 Golota

Acording to boxrec he's 6'1 1/2'

[!!Captain]

I have to disagree. You're saying "i would not look into the weight issue to much, speed, footwork and combinations will determine the winner."

Well in that case let's analyze the boxers.

Speed: Haye is faster than Wladimir and Adamek is faster than Vitali.

Combinations: Haye throws faster combinations than Wladimir, and therefore throws more punches in a row. Adamek throws faster combinations than Vitali and also throws more punches in a row.

Footwork: In this case it's a little harder to analyze. Haye and Adamek are faster moving aroung the ring than Wlad and Vitali, however Wlad and Vitali know how to close the ring to their rivals, so they don't actually need to move too much around the ring to get close to their rivals and throw hard punches.

Weight and height DO have a lot to do with the fight. Wlad and Vitali have a lot of range, they can throw punches that hit their rivals, but their opponents can't counter them because well they can't reach them. When it comes to weight, it makes a massive difference. Vitali and Wladimir are some of the hardest punchers of all times, they have a lot of mass and even without great acceleration they manage to create massive amounts of force. Haye and Adamek are strong, but you can't actually say that they hit harder than Vitali and Wlad because it wouldn't be true.

I know that Adamek and Haye are not going to stand in front of Klitschkos to take punches, but it's absolutely impossible that they're not going to get jabbed during the fight, well unless they startrunning for their life and forget about winning the fight. If they actually want to hit Vitali and Wlad they're going to have to take chances and get close sometimes, and Klitschko brothers hit hard as hell.

I do get that the strategy is going to be to move around and try to gas out Wlad and Vitali, but I don't really believe that they can afford to move around the ring for 8 or 9 rounds and then start trying to get close and win rounds. They need to be agressive, if they don't, then I truly believe that they're going to get KOd pretty fast. Well even if they're not, they can also be KOd pretty fast.

Haye has the power to rush Wlad, get Wlad to respect his power, and go back to his running exercise like he did with Valuev. He has to do that, otherwise Wlad gets comfortable and turns Hay's face into ravioli dish with his jab in 7-8 rounds. Whether or not it works, only depends on how brave Haye is going to be in that ring.

In Adamek's case, I don't see anything that he can do, aside from boxing circles around Vitali all night and hoping that Vitali's knee will pop or his shoulder dislocates. I have nothing but respect for Adamek but I just don't see any other way for him to win.

[Die Antwoord]

Vitali has taken flush punches from much bigger, much stronger and better punchers than Adamek and hes walked through them. Adamek's punches will only make Vitali angry...he won't like Vitali when he's angry.

Here's what will probably happen. During the first two rounds, Adamek will land some shots, slightly less than the amount of jabs Vitali lands on him, but he will land some shots. Then in rounds 3-5 Vitali will take over and Adamek will run, and round 6-8 Vitali will beat adamek to a pulp and somewhere in there the fight will be stopped. After the fight Adamek or someone will say that Adamek broke his hand or something in round 2 and haters will come on here to talk about how Adamek was winning when he got hurt etc...

I like Adamek but I actually would give Grant a larger chance to beat Vitali or Arreola in a rematch (neither would I give much of a chance to). He is too small, doesnt hit hard enough to keep Vitali off of him and Vitali is too smart and too experienced and too tough to lose this fight.

[SN!PER]

I realize it's not the Klitschkos' fault their opponents are smaller than them, but this is a comical size difference. It's like throwing Paulie Malignaggi in a ring against Carl Froch.

[hweightblogger]

Tyson use to come in light and knock giants out and he was only 5,9....

Quite the opposite. Tyson never managed to KO anyone good > 6'3'' (except Lou Savarese who came off a loss after a 1-year layoff).

All taller guys Tyson KOed were bums like Conroy Nelson (21-14) or Eddie Richardson (14-21) or David Jaco (24-25).

The full overview is at http://www.heavyweightblog.com/211/m...hko-in-1-round

Additionally it's not true that Tyson came in light. He was outweighing his KOwins as much as Wlad does

• Tyson: 23 lighter-than-self KOvictims, 19 heavier-than-self KOvictims
• Wlad: 25 lighter-than-self KOvictims, 22 heavier-than-self KOvictims

name..............|Lighter-than-self.KOvictims
Vitali.Klitschko..|76.3%
Wladimir.Klitschko|51.0%
Lennox.Lewis......|71.8%
Muhammad.Ali......|70.5%
Mike.Tyson........|52.2%
George.Foreman....|86.7%
Sonny.Liston......|82.0%

[hweightblogger]

Big fan of Adamek. He always comes to fight, boxes well and has great body shots.

And..

4) Worked his way up unlike Haye
5) Delivers more than 12 punches per round unlike Haye
6) Actually shakes the hand of his opponent