How do fight fans feel about Pacman Marquez at welterweight??

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    #271
    Originally posted by yesir
    Yeah. Because we all know that the hands of time turn counterclock wise rather than clockwise

    I'm tired of people saying these guys are the same size, they aren't. Pac is a ww, jmm is not
    Being the same weight on fight night doesn't necessarily mean they're the same size...don't know how you got that outta me...and for the record, in the plainest of terms, Manny and Marquez are NOT the same "size" and will not be the same size, I assume, when and if they meet at 144. It's like I said, I like the fight, I don't like the weight...English isn't supposed to be this complicated.

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      #272
      Originally posted by eklok
      p.s pac is gonna **** marquez, big time!!!
      we'll see.

      i heard the same talk before the rematch.

      "pac has gotten better"

      "pac is better at 130 than jmm is"



      as my buddy mak said on my sig:

      pac's face is attracted to jmm's right hand

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        #273
        Originally posted by P4P305
        Manny still fight the same way against moving target, but the weight will make a huge difference which is the reason why team Pacquiao wants to use the weight disadvantage against Marquez as a comfort zone for Manny. If Marquez stand right in front of Manny without using any range gap space, then it'll be over in the first round.
        nice sig, it speaks volumes...or a little bit for those specific instances between Marquez and Mosley. They both got caught, but Marquez just seen it better, he turned his head with the punch, when it grazed him he turned back and swung his right hand cuz he know floyd would go that direction, where as Mosley just took the punch, no movement...and then flailed his left arm like it would've done anything at all, smh.

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          #274
          Originally posted by BoxingScenery
          Being the same weight on fight night doesn't necessarily mean they're the same size...don't know how you got that outta me...and for the record, in the plainest of terms, Manny and Marquez are NOT the same "size" and will not be the same size, I assume, when and if they meet at 144. It's like I said, I like the fight, I don't like the weight...English isn't supposed to be this complicated.
          Ok but do U believe that Pacman is a small welterweight??I do,I think his team simply wants every advantage imaginable.Marquez isn't a welterweight.If team Pacman fights him,why can't it be at a weight both are comfortable at??

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            #275
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            we'll see.

            i heard the same talk before the rematch.

            "pac has gotten better"

            "pac is better at 130 than jmm is"



            as my buddy mak said on my sig:

            pac's face is attracted to jmm's right hand


            this foo

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              #276
              Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
              this foo
              at first i quoted myself.

              then someone pm'd me that quoting yourself is a douche move.


              just changed the name.

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                #277
                Originally posted by Bushbaby
                Ok but do U believe that Pacman is a small welterweight??I do,I think his team simply wants every advantage imaginable.Marquez isn't a welterweight.If team Pacman fights him,why can't it be at a weight both are comfortable at??
                From a fan's perspective, it should be...I don't know what else to say, I thought I made myself clear for that other poster. If you're wondering why it's at 144, isn't that clear as well? Who's challenging who? Think about it, why would you bend to a challenger's demands? It's not an argument, it just is what it is. Oh and, I think he's kind of a small welterweight, but he's a legit welter no doubt....no doubt about it anymore atleast. In the Mosley fight, for the first time, I thought to myself, 'he's really filled now huh?' I can no longer picture him going to 135, to 140 sure...a little water weight, and a couple missed meals here and there, less strength training, more cardio...he can do 140.

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                  #278
                  Originally posted by Bushbaby
                  Ok but do U believe that Pacman is a small welterweight??I do,I think his team simply wants every advantage imaginable.Marquez isn't a welterweight.If team Pacman fights him,why can't it be at a weight both are comfortable at??
                  He's not even a welterweight at all. With today's 24 re-hydration period almost no welterweight comes in on fight night at 147. Fighters who come in at 147 are big lightweights and JWWs.

                  JMM doesn't have to make the WW limit. I think it would be a huge mistake if he does try to bulk up like he did against PBF. However it was understandable to do it against PBF because PBF was actually a legit WW, but he doesn't have to against Pacquiao. JMM is only at a disadvantage fighting at WW if he actually tries to fight at WW or is fighting an actual WW. Since Pacquiao is the latter all he has to do is come in what he is comfortable in.

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                    #279
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby
                    That's all I want to know.

                    I think it says alot about him, people talk about how he so great but the more he fights since he's more popular now the more I lose respect for him. I liked him at smaller weight classes but now it's like all his team does is look for advantages over other fighters, slow guys, old guys, guys with no defense, etc. And espn riding **** all day like he doing great things. Marquez had no power at welter and is slower, pac has more power and maintains speed. Not to mention pac never can make 147 so they could have easily made the fight at 140 but nooooooooo they as usual being pu$$y.

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                    • Bushbaby
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                      #280
                      Originally posted by badass316
                      He's not even a welterweight at all. With today's 24 re-hydration period almost no welterweight comes in on fight night at 147. Fighters who come in at 147 are big lightweights and JWWs.

                      JMM doesn't have to make the WW limit. I think it would be a huge mistake if he does try to bulk up like he did against PBF. However it was understandable to do it against PBF because PBF was actually a legit WW, but he doesn't have to against Pacquiao. JMM is only at a disadvantage fighting at WW if he actually tries to fight at WW or is fighting an actual WW. Since Pacquiao is the latter all he has to do is come in what he is comfortable in.
                      Yeah,I get it from U guys.I really do.It's only different when Pacman wants to fight Marquez at welterweight.When Floyd did it it was bad.A welterweight fight is a welterweight fight bro.Pacman needs his advantages,his fans don't care & will support whatever he does,so his team & anyone else associated with him are gonna look for those advantages as best they can.If it wasn't a big deal,the fight wouldn't have been in the welterweight division.Since he isn't a welterweight like U claim,then there really shouldn't be a problem having the fight at jr welter or lightweight,now should it??But because Roach & anyone who isn't blind or dumb knows that Marquez is not an effective welterweight,they want the fight there.

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