Joe Calzaghe is terrible. FACT!

[Hewito]

Get the FACT out of here!!!!

[NinjaMan!]

Hopkins lost to Calzaghe, fact. Your spelling and attitude is ****, fact.

Yeah I know he lost but hey it happens. Calzaghe's career is still a joke compared to Hopkins. The guy was way over protected, Fought 99% bums and didn't have a 10th of the meaningful fights Hopkins had. That's just the way it is. He shouldn't of even got that decision with all the slapping air he was doing.

[NinjaMan!]

Exactly!

[Barry Halls]

hopkins legacy will clearly outshine Calzaghe.

With that said, Calzaghe is underrated around here and clearly beat hopkins.

[Abstraction]

Joe's fans are delusional fanboys.

[jermainerambo]

actually he wasn't knocked down he just took a knee to escape the deadly slap fury. he wasn't hurt in any way. why stop the fight when the guys not hurt? why even make the fight in the first place if you aren't gonna let the guy fight would be a better question but oh well. the commentator says "he must have been harmed by that gesture!" how do you harm someone with a gesture?

watch the fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAKPlGTqHaw&feature=player_detailpage#t=531s

[bigcursedawg]

I haven't watched many Calzaghe fights but thats mainly because all the ones I have seen failed to impress me. But from the few performances I have seen I agree that he pretty terrible. I have always thought it was funny how people talk about him as a ATG in this forum. Calzaghe is the perfect example why records don't mean ****. Anyone can have a perfect record if you make a career of fighting bums. As for the fight with Hopkins I didn't feel bad for him because it was his own damn fault that he let Calzaghe out work him with those weak little punches.

[.G.]

everytime bhop fights you see more calzaghe threads than hopkins threads

[The_Golden_Goy]

I haven't watched many Calzaghe fights but thats mainly because all the ones I have seen failed to impress me. But from the few performances I have seen I agree that he pretty terrible. I have always thought it was funny how people talk about him as a ATG in this forum. Calzaghe is the perfect example why records don't mean ****. Anyone can have a perfect record if you make a career of fighting bums. As for the fight with Hopkins I didn't feel bad for him because it was his own damn fault that he let Calzaghe out work him with those weak little punches.

So by your logic, in that records dont mean ****, lets forget about Calzaghe and Hopkins records and go to the fight itself, where Calzaghe clearly beat Hopkins.

Records do mean something, and Hopkins has clearly fought the better opposition, but just because Calzaghe doesnt have the record Hopkins does, doesnt mean he wasnt a better or worse fighter, it just means he took less risks, which is what everybody knows goes against Joe's record.

Little tip for you: If you're going to make a point, dont contradict yourself first

[NinjaMan!]

Calzaghe just has a funny style where he gets credit for punches that don't even land. He's no where near all time great. His only real claim to fame is barely beating a 43 year old Hopkins who was still great but still 43.