Bernard Hopkins you f*****g legend!

[Mr. Fantastic]

You could make the case but you would be in the overwhelming minority.

No I wouldn't. Lots of people scored it a draw/Pascal. Dude I was here reading the boards after the fight and saw many comments over it.

[ИATAS]

No I wouldn't. Lots of people scored it a draw/Pascal. Dude I was here reading the boards after the fight and saw many comments over it.

that's cool so was I. Here are the poll results immediately after the fight:



That's a whopping 16 people who scored it for Pascal. 207 for Hopkins. Keep in mind his fans, including that one loser who was riding the pascal band wagon hard until his picture was posted on here and never posted again, voted for pascal. With all the hopkins haters on here, margarine of error, I'd say quite a few of those who voted for pascal or a draw did so because they just don't like bhop. Still, even if you take those results as 100% accurate, that's 207 to 16 and 15% scored it a draw.

[daggum]

that's cool so was I. Here are the poll results immediately after the fight:



That's a whopping 16 people who scored it for Pascal. 207 for Hopkins. Keep in mind his fans, including that one loser who was riding the pascal band wagon hard until his picture was posted on here and never posted again, voted for pascal. With all the hopkins haters on here, margarine of error, I'd say quite a few of those who voted for pascal or a draw did so because they just don't like bhop. Still, even if you take those results as 100% accurate, that's 207 to 16 and 15% scored it a draw.

also keep in mind tunney has about 10 alts and voted for pascal many times.

[Mr. Fantastic]

that's cool so was I. Here are the poll results immediately after the fight:



That's a whopping 16 people who scored it for Pascal. 207 for Hopkins. Keep in mind his fans, including that one loser who was riding the pascal band wagon hard until his picture was posted on here and never posted again, voted for pascal. With all the hopkins haters on here, margarine of error, I'd say quite a few of those who voted for pascal or a draw did so because they just don't like bhop. Still, even if you take those results as 100% accurate, that's 207 to 16.

I didn't see that one there. I guess I was wrong. Thanks. But it Hopkins came and won the 2nd fight with no questions. I just hope he doesn't go back to fighting smaller guys to fill his bully ego.

[ИATAS]

I didn't see that one there. I guess I was wrong. Thanks. But it Hopkins came and won the 2nd fight with no questions. I just hope he doesn't go back to fighting smaller guys to fill his bully ego.

quit with the smaller guys stuff. he fought everyone and their mama at MW. At age 41 he moved up in weight and beat Tarver, Pascal and obviously Calzaghe fit perfectly fine at 175. Pavlik also looked like his twin at the weigh in but hey, pavlik went up four pounds from the taylor fight to fight hopkins and apparently had trouble making 160 pounds and weighed over 180 pounds against Martinez on fight night but yeah, he's a small little dude I guess

[Mr. Fantastic]

quit with the smaller guys stuff. he fought everyone and their mama at MW. At age 41 he moved up in weight and beat Tarver, Pascal and obviously Calzaghe fit perfectly fine at 175. Pavlik also looked like his twin at the weigh in but hey, pavlik went up four pounds from the taylor fight to fight hopkins and apparently had trouble making 160 pounds and weighed over 180 pounds against Martinez on fight night but yeah, he's a small little dude I guess

Because it's the truth that he beat up on smaller guys?

But it doesn't change the fact that Calzaghe STILL went up in weight.

Hopkins best wins have been against smaller guys, no way to go around that, not even with the age excuse. I gave him props for the Pascal win and hope he keeps fighting legit fights.

[ИATAS]

Because it's the truth that he beat up on smaller guys?

But it doesn't change the fact that Calzaghe STILL went up in weight.

Hopkins best wins have been against smaller guys, no way to go around that, not even with the age excuse. I gave him props for the Pascal win and hope he keeps fighting legit fights.

And what best wins are these? Trindiad? The same Trinidad who was a Middleweight champion when hopkins fought him and was a 7-1 favorite to beat hopkins? The only guy at MW who was truly smaller was Oscar, but no one says that was his best win that was his money fight.

calzaghe moved up in weight but hopkins was only there for two fights himself and calzaghe had always talked about 168 pounds was getting nearly impossible to make and he was going up regardless if it was hopkins or not. clearly joe was perfectly fine at 175 and they were the same size. Hopkins also jumped from 160 to 175 but I don't hear you talking about calzaghe beat up a blown up middleweight.

Tarver was apparently smaller than hopkins and so was glen johnson and echols and everyone else apparently too.

[$Bullsfam$]

that's cool so was I. Here are the poll results immediately after the fight:



That's a whopping 16 people who scored it for Pascal. 207 for Hopkins. Keep in mind his fans, including that one loser who was riding the pascal band wagon hard until his picture was posted on here and never posted again, voted for pascal. With all the hopkins haters on here, margarine of error, I'd say quite a few of those who voted for pascal or a draw did so because they just don't like bhop. Still, even if you take those results as 100% accurate, that's 207 to 16 and 15% scored it a draw.

LMAO!

also keep in mind tunney has about 10 alts and voted for pascal many times.

hahaha ain't that the motha****in truth!

I didn't see that one there. I guess I was wrong. Thanks. But it Hopkins came and won the 2nd fight with no questions. I just hope he doesn't go back to fighting smaller guys to fill his bully ego.

Ok sorry, a whopping 17 to 200+. Your vote really ****in matters a whole hell of a lot LMAO Piss off hater. You just got brutally ****ed and screwed!

[deuce_drop]

Because it's the truth that he beat up on smaller guys?

But it doesn't change the fact that Calzaghe STILL went up in weight.

Hopkins best wins have been against smaller guys, no way to go around that, not even with the age excuse. I gave him props for the Pascal win and hope he keeps fighting legit fights.

they weren't smaller guys when they were known for dropping 35+lbs to fight at their supposedly best weight class, that is not their natural weight class if thats what they have to do to dominate it.

if you want to talk about guys fighting smaller guys, then take that up with DLH and trinidad, mostly trinidad, which is who most are talking about when they use this lame STRAWMAN argument about hopkins.

if trinidad is walking around at 185-190 then fighting at 147, is he still smaller when he fights at 160?? dropping from 190???? because that is what he did, almost his whole career, walking around at 175 sometimes, most of the time walking around 185 between fights.

same with DLH, walking around at 160-170, then dropping down to 135-147..... GTFO with that crap...... smaller guys.......

it's harder to stay at the same weight as you get older, and hopkins did just that, he didn't manipulate his weight to have an advantage over smaller guys in the lower weight classes, he took care of his body to give him the advantage of being in impecable shape being fighting ready for when he started camp, no losing weight then training during camp, just trianing, and we're seeing that advantage STILL PAYING OFF TODAY, BY LIVING A GOOD CLEAN HEALTHY LIFE.......


all you blow hards with this fantasy about hopkins only fighting smaller guys, what about the BIGGER GUYS that dropped down into middleweight to have a size and weight advantage over middleweights, that hopkins fought, he beat those guys, but i guess since it's hopkins he's a giant at middleweight so even if they came from cruiserweight hopkins is still bigger than them, GTFO you *****z.......


trinidad yoyo dieted so much his body wouldn't let him go below 185 or something ridiculous like that when he entertained a rematch with hopkins, saying it can't be below 185 because he would be too weight drained???? what?? the smaller guy calling for a much higher weight class than the so called big man is even fighting in???? how can that be??

well duh, trinidad was never a small dude...............

i love how all these fables become fact to the ignorant and uneducated, at this topic of the sport, weight classes, size, and advantages.....

it's funny, just like the old saying: first they ignore you, then they laugh at you and discredit you, then YOU WIN!!!!!

that sums up hopkins career....... first no one cared..... then they dismissed him only criticizing him, now he's winning and none of the crap that they used to discredit him can even be used against him any more because it's been proven otherwise.........


anyone who drops 25 or more lbs to make weight in a certain class, is fighting and probably beating up smaller guys............ no the guy who is staying at one weight class and fighting who ever comes in it............. wake the **** up and learn something about the sport will you guys???

[Mr. Fantastic]

And what best wins are these? Trindiad? The same Trinidad who was a Middleweight champion when hopkins fought him and was a 7-1 favorite to beat hopkins? The only guy at MW who was truly smaller was Oscar, but no one says that was his best win that was his money fight.

calzaghe moved up in weight but hopkins was only there for two fights himself and calzaghe had always talked about 168 pounds was getting nearly impossible to make and he was going up regardless if it was hopkins or not. clearly joe was perfectly fine at 175 and they were the same size. Hopkins also jumped from 160 to 175 but I don't hear you talking about calzaghe beat up a blown up middleweight.

Tarver was apparently smaller than hopkins and so was glen johnson and echols and everyone else apparently too.

Tarver props, Pascal props, and Glen Johnson props.

Who gives a **** who was favored over who. Doesn't change the fact that Trinidad was more successful at the lower weights. At 160+ he was like 3-3. Please tell me that any great fighter like Trinidad would get a record like that if he didn't belong there. Calzaghe moved up, no way to flipping it. End of story.

they weren't smaller guys when they were known for dropping 35+lbs to fight at their supposedly best weight class, that is not their natural weight class if thats what they have to do to dominate it.

if you want to talk about guys fighting smaller guys, then take that up with DLH and trinidad, mostly trinidad, which is who most are talking about when they use this lame STRAWMAN argument about hopkins.

if trinidad is walking around at 185-190 then fighting at 147, is he still smaller when he fights at 160?? dropping from 190???? because that is what he did, almost his whole career, walking around at 175 sometimes, most of the time walking around 185 between fights.

same with DLH, walking around at 160-170, then dropping down to 135-147..... GTFO with that crap...... smaller guys.......

it's harder to stay at the same weight as you get older, and hopkins did just that, he didn't manipulate his weight to have an advantage over smaller guys in the lower weight classes, he took care of his body to give him the advantage of being in impecable shape being fighting ready for when he started camp, no losing weight then training during camp, just trianing, and we're seeing that advantage STILL PAYING OFF TODAY, BY LIVING A GOOD CLEAN HEALTHY LIFE.......


all you blow hards with this fantasy about hopkins only fighting smaller guys, what about the BIGGER GUYS that dropped down into middleweight to have a size and weight advantage over middleweights, that hopkins fought, he beat those guys, but i guess since it's hopkins he's a giant at middleweight so even if they came from cruiserweight hopkins is still bigger than them, GTFO you *****z.......


trinidad yoyo dieted so much his body wouldn't let him go below 185 or something ridiculous like that when he entertained a rematch with hopkins, saying it can't be below 185 because he would be too weight drained???? what?? the smaller guy calling for a much higher weight class than the so called big man is even fighting in???? how can that be??

well duh, trinidad was never a small dude...............

i love how all these fables become fact to the ignorant and uneducated, at this topic of the sport, weight classes, size, and advantages.....

it's funny, just like the old saying: first they ignore you, then they laugh at you and discredit you, then YOU WIN!!!!!

that sums up hopkins career....... first no one cared..... then they dismissed him only criticizing him, now he's winning and none of the crap that they used to discredit him can even be used against him any more because it's been proven otherwise.........


anyone who drops 25 or more lbs to make weight in a certain class, is fighting and probably beating up smaller guys............ no the guy who is staying at one weight class and fighting who ever comes in it............. wake the **** up and learn something about the sport will you guys???

I can't believe I just read all that shit. lol