Degale should never fight in britain again!!

[.G.]

get stuck in.

[TouchyAndalou]

You realize that Pacquiao is arguably more popular/supported in the US than Mayweather is, right? I mean, if all you have to support your pathetically weak argument is a dig at one fighter whom you hate (Mayweather), you might as well just quit.

Isn't it weird though that Mayweather, a sublimely skilled boxer, perhaps the finest of his generation, is disliked by so many fans in the US - and chiefly because of his abrasive, ostentatious personality.

Fans of any sport tend to support guys they can either relate to or feel some sort of an affinity towards. It's human nature, not some quirk unique to the British. This is a main reason why Ricky Hatton is loved by so many people here, whilst Floyd Mayweather is loathed by so many people in the states.

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

What argument? I'm just responding to an insult.

My initial statement was that the Brit public by in large hate DeGale due to his personality and would sooner follow a less talented fighter like Groves. Americans are more forgiving of personality providing that fighter wins fights. That was all I said.
You came back with some unrelated personal stuff about me jerking off with my left hand (which I do btw) and some other stuff about superior Yank training. I was happy to leave it there but if you want to continue with a Pac - Mayweather thread then please feel free.

Your argument about British and American fight fans, ie. the stuff in the red. Keep up.

And your argument makes no sense. I've already provided examples that prove American fight fans value the warrior more than the British do, if anything, and have given accurate thoughts that speak to the shallowness of the British perception of 'humility' and 'modesty'.

If the British valued the warrior as much as the US do, Mike Katsidis would be a star here, having kicked the ass of two Britons in their backyards in blazing wars.

You're the one who mentioned Mayweather and his testing tussle with Pac, dolt, so you're the one attempting to force the thread in that direction.

fights fans respect modesty and heart above all else. They also like no-nonsense fighters from working class backgrounds that don't shout their mouths of, just get in there wanting to fight like Nigel Benn.

They buy into superficial crap that speaks little to the inner characters of men, typically.


The Englishman, especially - his notion of modesty is very twisted and delusional. Take Ricky Hatton, for instance. Hatton was not 'modest', he referred to himself in the third person and was a picture of belief in his own entitlement. He just drank loads and spoke in a 'common' accent is all. That facade cracked somewhat in the end and a portion of even his hardcore following had soured on him, though, and not because of his losses (many because they'd ******ly forked out hundreds of pounds to meet him and found themselves isolted in a tent while he rubbed shoulders with VIP's, LMAOO).

[Southpaw Stinger]

Your argument about British and American fight fans, ie. the stuff in the red. Keep up.

And your argument makes no sense. I've already provided examples to prove that American fight fans value the warrior more than the British do, if anything, and have given accurate thoughts that speak to the shallowness of the British perception of 'humility' and 'modesty'.

If the British valued the warrior as much as the US do, Mike Katsidis would be a star here, having kicked the ass of two Britons in their backyards in blazing wars.

You're the one who mentioned Mayweather and his testing tussle with Pac, dolt, so you're the one attempting to force the thread in that direction.

Why are you arguing in the first place, dude? Did you honestly expect me to come back with a serious discussion when your first port of call was a personal dig?

[Royabeda]

Again, fight fans like modesty and heart. You tried to play the race card and your little theory was seen through as complete BS.

Agreed.

Look down the years and you'll find British fighters from many different backgrounds who gained popularity. Hatton's following was unique and only really blew up to the scale seen in Vegas later in his career, although he did have a decent following throughout. The notion that the majority of British boxing fans are biased towards white fighters is kind of nonsense, explain Froch, explain Calzaghe. You'll find more followers of Haye and Khan than either of those.

[TouchyAndalou]

It was a robbery because the fecking judges clearly went for the "home man" you plank!!.. that's my point, Groves had the crowd so they gave it to him, despite the fact that he wasn't the better man on the night and Degale was more aggressive,

Hopefully you can comprehend me now!! .

The judges didn't clearly go for the home fighter; two of them scored the fight for Groves by a single round, which by no means was unreasonable based on the action in the ring. Degale - whose aggressiveness you've lauded - threw less punches, landed less punches, and landed them at a lower percentage. A criteria for judging is effective aggressiveness, not simply walking forward without doing much of anything. You're insane if you think this was a robbery.

[Flux]

The buy into superficial crap that means nothing about the inner characters of men, typically.


The Englishman, especially - his notion of modesty is very twisted and delusional. Take Ricky Hatton, for instance. Hatton was not 'modest', he referred to himself in the third person and was a picture of belief in his own entitlement. He just drank loads and spoke in a 'common' accent is all. That facade cracked somewhat in the end and a portion of even his hardcore following had soured on him, though, and not because of his losses (many because they'd ******ly forked out hundreds of pounds to meet him and found themselves isolted in a tent while he rubbed shoulders with VIP's, LMAOO).

Why wouldn't they buy into what they're seeing on the surface? They liked him because he was telling the jokes you hear 'down the pub', because he advertised local businesses on his boxing gear, because he bought the football supporters element into it, a large chunk of his fans were Manchester City followers, and most importantly because he was there for a scrap. If he was a tit under the surface, then obviously his infact millions of followers aren't all going to be aware of it, why would they be aware?

At the end of the day that's just pure pessimism, and sounds to me like you're being slightly too sceptical with the whole third-person argument. Moreover the fans "being left in tents" sounds a bit hear'say. The borderline xenophobia is also most welcome.

Moreover as I've already said, your example was tripe. Use that example when Pacquiao's also had a public workout in the UK when he's not fighting a British fan favourite.

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

Why are you arguing in the first place, dude? Did you honestly expect me to come back with a serious discussion when your first port of call was a personal dig?

You've been attempting discussion, mate, but you didn't/don't really have a point, did/do you? Except "fat yanks suck", etc.

Man, I don't even like America as a nation/ideology, so the fact that I'm arguing against you should tell you something about how awful you are.

It's not 2005 and !! Anorak isn't boxingscene king anymore. Back into redundancy with you.

[Silky-Flow]

Again, fight fans like modesty and heart. You tried to play the race card and your little theory was seen through as complete BS.

Oh P/ss off!!.. i put the facts on the table!!.. Dirrell got robbed and so did Chunky tonight!!.. people are acting like Groves stayed silent as a mouse leading up to the fight!! .. YOU LOT ARE HYPORCRITES!!.

[Southpaw Stinger]

You've been attempting discussion, mate, but you didn't/don't really have a point, do you? Except "fat yanks suck", etc.

Man, I don't even like America as a nation/ideology, so that I'm arguing against you should tell you something about how aful you are.

It's not 2005 and !! Anorak isn't boxingscene king anymore. Back into redundancy with you.

It's that sad moment when one person is having a laugh and the other is deadly serious.
I guess I took your jibes and use of emoticons and 'lmao' to reinforce your ever so strong points as a sign of playful internet banter.

If this was a serious debate all along, I apologize...