Comments Thread For: Khan vs Judah Hits a Wall, Financial Dispute Over Split

[Rome-By-Ko]

i really would rather see Khan fight somebody else. Not saying Judah isn't a hell of a fighter but the style matchup doesn't excite me. Judah is just dangerous enough to keep Khan from jumping in, and Khan is too fast and strong for Judah to impose himself on (not that judah does that anyway). Guerrero I like and I don't want to see him lose right now in his career.

I love the Ghost vs Khan,but right now Khan needs to make himself more solid and Judah is just the fighter to help him do it..One thing about Judah he does come to fight that much you can bank on..

[mrpain81]

Judah is not back by a Major Promoter either,and it says a lot to be able to be on an independent PPV and still have some sells(not many can do this)

HBO gave him a shot and the ratings were dog ****.

He fought on a Fernando Vargas independent PPV and I don't even think they sold 5k PPV buys.

There are a lot of fighters that fight on crap independent PPV's, Tye Fields just fought Michael Grant on one of those PPV's. I guess they some big draws and it says a lot about how popular they are also(since not many fighters can do that).

..I do believe Judah is a bigger name the MAB overall,but MAB has the Mexican people behind him who love boxing(how many AA you know gonna watch Judah fight a unknown fighter??)MAB could fight a phone book and 300k Mexican people will order it..But Judah is somewhat a celebrity being in videos and the people he hangs around Zab is marketable..He would help sell the fight in the US..

Both MAB and Judah are washed up right now as neither are draws anymore but Judah was never a bigger draw then MAB. HBO took a chance to see if Judah could still draw and he bombed, if the ratings would have been good they would of had him back on.

Judah thinks that because he won a paper title that now he can dictate big money and that's fine, but when the networks ain't beating down your doors and maybe 10k people bought your last PPV you have to be delusional to believe you are actually going to get it.

[SpitBalla]

Where are people getting all this info about Judah still being a big name? He's been fighting on crap PPV's and ESPN2 for the past 3 years, his last fight on HBO did crap ratings.


11/6/2010 - HBO - Boxing After Dark - Judah/Mathysse - 766,000 total live viewers

Khan on the other hand is doing nice ratings and gate figures.

Maidana vs. Khan gate - Mandalay Bay - $500,000

04/16/11 - HBO - BAD - Khan vs. McCloskey - Ortiz vs. Berto - 1.5 Million average viewers

December 11, 2010 - HBO - 8:00 PST - Amir Khan - Marcos Maidana – 1.17 million viewers

5-15-2010 - HBO - World Championship Boxing - Paulie Malignaggi vs. Amir Khan - 1.228 million live viewers


Khan should offer Judah $500k or tell him to **** off and see where he can make that type of money fighting anyone else.

Yea, Judah is acting almost as delusional as Bradley.

Arum mentioned Judahs name once or twice and it has gone to his head.

[WESS]

Judah that lost to Mayweather beats Khan. The 2011 Judah hasn't shown me anything to believe he could beat khan. I would love to see the fight happen though.

[Rome-By-Ko]

HBO gave him a shot and the ratings were dog ****.

He fought on a Fernando Vargas independent PPV and I don't even think they sold 5k PPV buys.

There are a lot of fighters that fight on crap independent PPV's, Tye Fields just fought Michael Grant on one of those PPV's. I guess they some big draws and it says a lot about how popular they are also(since not many fighters can do that).



Both MAB and Judah are washed up right now as neither are draws anymore but Judah was never a bigger draw then MAB. HBO took a chance to see if Judah could still draw and he bombed, if the ratings would have been good they would of had him back on.

Judah thinks that because he won a paper title that now he can dictate big money and that's fine, but when the networks ain't beating down your doors and maybe 10k people bought your last PPV you have to be delusional to believe you are actually going to get it.

MAB has the Mexican people behind him,Zab has the AA people(which does not show the same support for AA fighters)how many people came out to see his last two fights??Once again Zab is more of a celebrity here in the states..Fighting him does wonders for Khans image here in the states..Like it or not they are gonna have to offer Judah more then 500k because he makes Khan legit and has a belt to make Khan a unified Champ..I say 750 to 800k seems fair..

[WESS]

MAB has the Mexican people behind him,Zab has the AA people(which does not show the same support for AA fighters)how many people came out to see his last two fights??Once again Zab is more of a celebrity here in the states..Fighting him does wonders for Khans image here in the states..Like it or not they are gonna have to offer Judah more then 500k because he makes Khan legit and has a belt to make Khan a unified Champ..I say 750 to 800k seems fair..

I agree but I really would have liked to see JMM fight Judah.

[dvb]

guerro is the lose lose fight,not for any unification,vs a lightweight,but a tall rangy good lightweight at that.

Judah is smaller,weaker,been beat badly before.

But he also has the name,the speed and power/slick kinda style.

if its title unifying then 50-50!

if khan wants to unify,hele say ok to 50-50,he seemed to do loads to get bradley,why not do same for judah.

[mrpain81]

MAB has the Mexican people behind him,Zab has the AA people(which does not show the same support for AA fighters)how many people came out to see his last two fights??Once again Zab is more of a celebrity here in the states..Fighting him does wonders for Khans image here in the states..Like it or not they are gonna have to offer Judah more then 500k because he makes Khan legit and has a belt to make Khan a unified Champ..I say 750 to 800k seems fair..

I don't think it does much for Khan since Judah isn't that relevant anymore in boxing, sure people still know him but he's been out of the public eye for 3-4 years and his shot at the big time just bombed.

The paper title is something that they can promote but how much is it worth? Maidana got something like $550k for the Khan fight and I think Paulie got something like $400k plus some of the gate money. I wouldn't have a problem with Judah asking for $600k or around there but the guy is asking for a 50-50 split, he's delusional.

[araindon]

I personally think, the HBO and US gate money should be 50/50, Judah may not be the draw he used to, but put him in with Khan and the interest rekindles. UK PPV money, Judah doesn't deserve a dime, no one has a clue who he is here. 50/50 US money, and all UK revenue to Khan. That is fair.

[WESS]

I don't think it does much for Khan since Judah isn't that relevant anymore in boxing, sure people still know him but he's been out of the public eye for 3-4 years and his shot at the big time just bombed.

The paper title is something that they can promote but how much is it worth? Maidana got something like $550k for the Khan fight and I think Paulie got something like $400k plus some of the gate money. I wouldn't have a problem with Judah asking for $600k or around there but the guy is asking for a 50-50 split, he's delusional.

Right, but he has name value or else Bob wouldn't have mentioned him for Pac. Which makes it a more sweet deal for Khan as we know if Bobs talking about an opponent for Pac we know damn well they haven't performed well in the last 3 or more years.

Not to mention they can some how promote that Team Pac was looking to fight Judah but wanted to fight a LW at WW instead. Use Pac's name to promote Khan vs Judah. Much like Bob uses Floyd's name. You know they will as Roach is the trainer of the two and they will link it anyway.

But again, I would rather see JMM vs Judah anyhow so I hope it gets canx.