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  • crold1
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    #11
    Originally posted by emhoffk
    Cliff - Re: Nietes - at the very least you need to remove the WBO champ designation from his rating - he vacated. Check the WBO website, Raul Garcia is listed as the full champ - Nietes is no. 1 at 108. He's also already fought once at 108.

    In fact, both he and Condes last had fights at 105 in August of 2010 - then one subsequent fight at 108. I can see if you maybe wanted to rate Condes at 108, fine (I disagree but at least you have a reason). But if you have Condes at 108 you have to apply the same logic to Nietes and rate him at 108 as well.

    There's no shame in admitting that you missed the memo that Nietes vacated and moved up - lol. It's hard to follow all these guys - especially at 105.
    No shame here. Last I'd checked Raul was still interim. Vacating is good enough for me. To be fixed.next update.

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    • LeadUppercut
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      #12
      Originally posted by crold1
      I think Cotto was still a bad apple who could compete with just about anyone but Pac (and even there he competed hard early) and Hatton was coming off a strong win. They just aren't better than Pac.

      As to MaAT...soon enough. Thinking Barrera and Marquez are due, but I don't want to do Marquez until after Pac III now. Maybe Rafa? Hmm...
      Barrera would be great. I can see why you want to wait until after Pac III to do Marquez, but that fight proves nothing either way imho.

      I cannot look at that bout as a trilogy fight, a trilogy fight should have happened 3 years ago at 130.

      Marquez will be nearly 40 and fighting within the welterweight divisional limit, so it means nothing..... it will be an exhibition match, and nothing more.

      It will not prove once-and-for-all who is best between those two guys, because Marquez will be too far removed from his game.

      It could add to Marquez' legacy, but will not detract from it, as was the case with Mosley.

      Thoughts on that ?

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      • Uncle Sam
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        #13
        When I think of Andre Ward, it gives me a warm, tingling feeling. It's like "WOW, 'Man' can be perfect."

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        • crold1
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          #14
          Originally posted by LeadUppercut
          Barrera would be great. I can see why you want to wait until after Pac III to do Marquez, but that fight proves nothing either way imho.

          I cannot look at that bout as a trilogy fight, a trilogy fight should have happened 3 years ago at 130.

          Marquez will be nearly 40 and fighting within the welterweight divisional limit, so it means nothing..... it will be an exhibition match, and nothing more.

          It will not prove once-and-for-all who is best between those two guys, because Marquez will be too far removed from his game.

          It could add to Marquez' legacy, but will not detract from it, as was the case with Mosley.

          Thoughts on that ?
          I had Marquez ahead at the end of both Pac fights but they could have gone either way. If he wins at Welter, it enhances the living hell out of his resume. Lose bad and it doesn't hurt much. Either way, if I'm going to do a MaAT on JMM, best to wait.

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          • LeadUppercut
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            #15
            Originally posted by crold1
            I had Marquez ahead at the end of both Pac fights but they could have gone either way. If he wins at Welter, it enhances the living hell out of his resume. Lose bad and it doesn't hurt much. Either way, if I'm going to do a MaAT on JMM, best to wait.
            Barrera it is then. No hurry, finish your coffee first

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