Sergio Martinez tentative date of October 1st

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  • ßringer
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    #11
    Floyd will never fight Martinez, neither will Pacquiao.

    They both have too much to lose, and honestly ; Martinez could spank either of them on any given night.

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      #12
      Originally posted by J Dubb II 330
      Lol ok? Mayweather could fight at 154 or a catch weight of 156-158. That would be Floyd decision and since he already said he would fight Martinez at 154
      you're missing the point, let me make it clearer for you

      floyd moving up in weight to MW to fight a MW, gives the MW the advantage

      people need to stop with the floyd/pac vs martinez hoopla, it'd be different if Sergio was a 154 fighter maybe doing a 150 CW or something, but he's 160 and some people say he could makee 168.

      168, 160, 154, that's THREE weight divisions above 147. come on people, use your brains

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        #13
        Originally posted by The_Bringer
        Floyd will never fight Martinez, neither will Pacquiao.

        They both have too much to lose, and honestly ; Martinez could spank either of them on any given night.
        i actually think Floyd's style would **** Martinez if they were on an even playing field in terms of strength, but I don't think Floyd could hurt Martinez much at their current weights

        Martinez is a supreme boxer/counter puncher and entices guys to come forward, with his whole "i'm gonna keep my gloves down by my waist, try to hit me" approach

        Floyd would force Sergio to actually come forward, which would take Sergio out of his comfort zone. Not saying Sergio can't fight coming forward but that's not his comfort zone

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          #14
          Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
          i actually think Floyd's style would **** Martinez if they were on an even playing field in terms of strength, but I don't think Floyd could hurt Martinez much at their current weights

          Martinez is a supreme boxer/counter puncher and entices guys to come forward, with his whole "i'm gonna keep my gloves down by my waist, try to hit me" approach

          Floyd would force Sergio to actually come forward, which would take Sergio out of his comfort zone. Not saying Sergio can't fight coming forward but that's not his comfort zone
          Mayweather really only struggles with two kinds of fighters.

          Guys that are faster than he is, and taller guys with good jabs.

          Martinez is obviously, the latter.

          I agree that Martinez would be out of his "comfort zone" playing the role of aggressor against Mayweather, but Mayweather's punches have about as much pop these days as a bowl of "rice crispies".

          He landed at will on Shane for 12 rounds and Shane didn't even look like he'd been in a fight. So Martinez would have no problem eating whatever he had to eat of Floyd's to make it a fight.

          And with his skill and obvious physical advantages, I think he'd snatch that "0".

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            #15
            there is nothing you made clear nor did I need you too, It would be Floyds choice if he wants to move up, he can, Floyd is not afraid to give someone else an advantage, plus if Floyd comes into the ring on fight night between 154-158 then I don't see the problem with that either, not really an adv when he fights in the mid 150's

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              #16
              If Floyd comes back, it will be against the top junior welterweight (once all of the dust settles there) and the fight will be at welterweight.

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                #17
                i doubt martinez will fight manfredo. chavez jr doesn't want anything to do with him, so hopefully zbik can beat him, cause he said he would be willing to fight martinez, rubio sounds good too. martinez's promoter said his next fight wouldn't be on PPV, but on boxrec they have his next fight scheduled as an HBO PPV, i hope it's another mistake from boxrec.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The_Bringer
                  Mayweather really only struggles with two kinds of fighters.

                  Guys that are faster than he is, and taller guys with good jabs.

                  Martinez is obviously, the latter.

                  I agree that Martinez would be out of his "comfort zone" playing the role of aggressor against Mayweather, but Mayweather's punches have about as much pop these days as a bowl of "rice crispies".

                  He landed at will on Shane for 12 rounds and Shane didn't even look like he'd been in a fight. So Martinez would have no problem eating whatever he had to eat of Floyd's to make it a fight.

                  And with his skill and obvious physical advantages, I think he'd snatch that "0".
                  this is the most inaccurate, overstated comment about mayweather on these boards and i wish it would go away, it isn't true at all. he isn't a KO artist like pacman, but it doesn't make his punches less effective. i wish people would come up with something else to rip floyd with instead of this crap

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
                    this is the most inaccurate, overstated comment about mayweather on these boards and i wish it would go away, it isn't true at all. he isn't a KO artist like pacman, but it doesn't make his punches less effective. i wish people would come up with something else to rip floyd with instead of this crap
                    It's actually very accurate.

                    How else do you account for Shane taking no damage whatsoever in a 12 rounder where Floyd landed at will on him?

                    How else do you account for Marquez taking no damage whatsoever apart from his normal "eye cut" (that he's gotten in every fight since the 1st Pac fight) in a full 12 rounder where Floyd landed on him at will?

                    You're confusing power, with effectiveness.

                    Floyd's punches are very effective. They just don't hurt.

                    I like it to being stung by bees.

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