Victor Conte on Boxing, USADA, Steroids, Blood-Doping, EPO

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yeaaaahhhhh...and this somehow makes boxing a U.S. Sport? Uhh no. Try again.

Try what again?

Never said it was a u.s. sport.

Just mentioned how the lot of you love to tout america as the place to be where one makes their names in international competition for various sports. Baseball and basketball included with boxing.

[IMDAZED]

I want people to be consistent in how they view their favorite athletes.

Just as John Stewart asked O'Reilly to be consistent, I'm asking the same.

Many a Floyd stan touted WADA as some super wonder of the drug testing world.

Yet, those same people, want just one man to be subjected to this type of testing, even though hes never, ever been associated with PEDs, until some clown got scared. Those same people, have no issue watching Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, etc., etc. year after year without being subjected to WADA testing. And we know this,

because they still watch.

Its funny how this little Asian guy scares the lot of you.

How do you know if these people do or don't have issues with athletes juicing in other sports? Do you live with all of them? Track their web history? Conversations? Get a grip. This is a boxing forum, genius.

[IMDAZED]

Try what again?

Never said it was a u.s. sport.

Just mentioned how the lot of you love to tout america as the place to be where one makes their names in international competition for various sports. Baseball and basketball included with boxing.

Ok...so it's not a U.S. sport therefore it's not just subject to U.S. rules. Perfect.

[The Evil 1-2]

From what I could conclude from the article, Conte is saying that the USADA testing protocol for the Mosley-Mayweather fight had holes in it that prevented it from being a true deterrent of PED use. However, I doubt Conte would say that the current testing is anywhere near as good as the USADA testing in the Mosley-Mayweather fight. At the end of the day, the current testing methods utilized by boxing cannot be measured up to USADA's testing in the Mosley-Mayweather fight. Something is better than nothing...

[Medved]

Where all the *****s go? lol.

My view is this, Conte is the father of modern day doping. He is the worlds expert on this. He made his millions and connections juicing athletes. Do I think hes innocent? Hell no, this is all a ploy by him to get the heads up so he knows how to cycle his athletes.

Not only is he now working for these doping agencies but he's also working with athletes. All these Atheletes dont hire him for his training know how, they hire him so he pumps them full of drugs to make them better, do they know what they take? Nope, he doesnt tell them. Because they can just say " I dont know what I took, he gave them to me and I passed all the tests"

Once a substance is banned his scientists change the strain until it gets banned again, its a cat and mouse game.

Boxing/All world class Athletes need to have REAL testing done by Independant Commisions and Companies that are Neutral and done have connections to athletes.

You cant have a guy running the tests when he's been working with the Athletes and the commision, its collusion.

You either make everyone take the same tests or none of them, you cant single out people just for fun.

Conte needs to be highly monitored and banned from working with Athletes.

[MindBat]

*****s hates this thread cause they know it's the truth!!!

Well ... How about something none of the *******s on this thread have thought to ask ... "Why don't we find out what USADA has to say about this before jumping to conclusions?"

After all, we don't recall Conte being present while both Shane and Floyd were being tested now, do we?

I said it before: *******s and Manny should've been jumping for joy when they found out the testing for Shane and Floyd was stopped 18 days out instead of the required 14 and 7 days Manny had requested.

[MindBat]

you know whats a trip is that the king of peds and roids is saying that it wasnt random and stuff yet pac is still scared to sign the contract
wow

Exactly. With that endorsement from Conte, Arum and Freddie should now be on the phone demanding the fight be made right now.

Manny "agreed to everything" right?

[p4p-champ]

So none of the 3 major sports leagues in america use WADA,

and yet, you have no problems with your favorite athletes in those sports not doing their tests,

but you want some one dimensional, ordinary Asian man who fights weight drained, old, shot cherry picked come forward brawlers with no skill to take them?

Weird.

Who says i don't have issues with other sports doing the proper tests? Baseball still has a black mark on it from legendary players who have turned out to be cheating frauds. All sports are plagued by PEDs, including boxing but they'd rather have athletes cheat their way on to the record books to keep the fans interested. Baseball knew about the ongoing drug usage for years and didn't do anything until they were forced to when the whole Balco scandal hit the fan.

I'm sure you world revolves around Manny but reality doesn't. PEDs are a big issue in all sports and it don't matter if your Asian or a congressman, everyone is suspect.

Take the fuckin tests.

[Elotero]

Where all the *****s go? lol.

My view is this, Conte is the father of modern day doping. He is the worlds expert on this. He made his millions and connections juicing athletes. Do I think hes innocent? Hell no, this is all a ploy by him to get the heads up so he knows how to cycle his athletes.

Not only is he now working for these doping agencies but he's also working with athletes. All these Atheletes dont hire him for his training know how, they hire him so he pumps them full of drugs to make them better, do they know what they take? Nope, he doesnt tell them. Because they can just say " I dont know what I took, he gave them to me and I passed all the tests"

Once a substance is banned his scientists change the strain until it gets banned again, its a cat and mouse game.

Boxing/All world class Athletes need to have REAL testing done by Independant Commisions and Companies that are Neutral and done have connections to athletes.

You cant have a guy running the tests when he's been working with the Athletes and the commision, its collusion.

You either make everyone take the same tests or none of them, you cant single out people just for fun.

Conte needs to be highly monitored and banned from working with Athletes.

I agree. This is like the FBI hiring hackers as security testers.

If you don't want to be associated with cheating or doping, stay as far away from Conte as you can.

[p4p-champ]

I agree. This is like the FBI hiring hackers as security testers.

If you don't want to be associated with cheating or doping, stay as far away from Conte as you can.

actually, some of the best security experts were once hackers.