Victor Conte on Boxing, USADA, Steroids, Blood-Doping, EPO

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Pinoy4ever
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Apr 2011
    • 1962
    • 36
    • 0
    • 18,183

    #11
    *****s hates this thread cause they know it's the truth!!!

    Comment

    • Bee Keepz
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Jan 2010
      • 1872
      • 67
      • 0
      • 8,119

      #12
      Originally posted by Travdog
      Is this supposed to scare a supporter of random testing off....lol....The man is saying there needs to be a better system...I agree...At least some people are trying while others are running away from the tests
      *cough* PETITION *cough*

      Victor Conte - "I would not want to single-out Manny Pacquiao because I have no direct evidence that he has used any performance enhancing drugs. That being said, I think we need to be su****ious of everybody at the elite level. What he's doing, to go from the lower weight divisions up to many divisions higher and maintain his speed and power- is that su****ious? Yes it is. But are there people throughout Olympic or professional sports history that are just genetic freaks and have a mindset that's powerful, and I guess the question is, 'Could you do what Manny Pacquiao does?' or 'Could other fighters do what Manny Pacquiao does and be clean?', I believe with hard-tech nutrition and training and these other available methods like this intermittent hypoxic training which has some of the benefits, the same benefits you would receive from using EPO, I believe it can be done."

      "I don't think Manny should be singled-out until some specific information comes forward indicating that he has used performance enhancing drugs."

      "I was contacted by people associated with Floyd Mayweather when they were having the judge arbitrate how to come up with a (drug testing) program and what I recommended and I clearly understand Manny Pacquiao is not the first athlete that has had an adverse psychological response to having their blood drawn. Asafa Powell from Jamaica for many years was the world record holder for the 100-meters, the world's fastest human, in Beijing said that he was affected by having his blood drawn before the 100-meters there. Not it may only be psychological, but it's a valid explanation. Some people don't like it and it has an effect upon them,"

      "I think you got to take it a step at a time. And I don't think you can just walk in and take over the sport and implement Olympic caliber testing by USADA all at the same time. I think you have to compromise, you have to look at the specifics of boxing and you have to develop a program that is tailor-made for the sport of boxing, so I suggested 5 days out because there are certain things you can do to more easily circumvent as opposed to using the 14-day or the 24-day out as a cut-off for testing. I would recommend 5 days, but if you're hungry a half loaf of bread is better than none and I think you need to compromise. And I don't think it's ever going to be perfect,"

      "Manny Pacquiao has now came up and said that he is willing to do the testing all the way up to 14 days before, my opinion is, they need to make this fight. Let's get it on. That's a compromise that should be accepted by Mayweather and all parties concerned need to understand just because Manny Pacquiao agreed to do the USADA testing and do what Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather did doesn't necessarily mean they're clean."

      "People that are determined to cheat could still use drugs and like I say, you can sign the fight today and start testing five weeks before the fight, who's to say they're not both using anabolic steroids for months? For months and months that you do a series of cycles of steroids you can still maintain that benefit and improvement in performance. We don't live in a perfect world, I think you need to compromise. I would like to see, for the benefit of all those in the world of boxing, I would like to see Floyd Mayweather agree to a 14-day drug testing that Manny Pacquiao said he would comply with and let's bring this fight."

      "For whatever claims they said about Floyd being drug testing for the Mosley fight, he was tested 19 days before the fight. Let's get real here. Floyd's saying my way or the highway, well that's BS. It's got to be a compromise and there's never going 100% (accurate test) and we need to acknowledge that and I think Manny has made an effort to compromise and move to Floyd's direction and I think Manny needs to be applauded for that."

      Continue reading on Examiner.com: 'I was contacted by Mayweather's people': Exclusive Interview with Victor Conte part 2 - National Filipino Sports | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/filipino-spo...#ixzz1MdGmFB7U
      It's strange Roger Mayweather mentioned something about "5 days" in his recent interview not being all the way OST.


      DIDN'T Mayweather just say a week ago that Shane Mosley should JUICE UP for the Pacquiao fight?

      Comment

      • Pullcounter
        no guts no glory
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Jan 2004
        • 42582
        • 549
        • 191
        • 49,739

        #13
        Originally posted by Travdog
        Is this supposed to scare a supporter of random testing off....lol....The man is saying there needs to be a better system...I agree...At least some people are trying while others are running away from the tests

        Actually the point of the post is this:


        Originally posted by Victor Conte


        Well, let me explain something, because I see where you're going with your questions here. And, let me say this. That, the reason that I don't believe that this testing that the United States Anti-Doping Agency did for the Floyd Mayweather-Shane Mosley fight was truly random...

        And I heard over, and over, and over, that it was going to be, 'Random, random, random.' But that is not random when you start five weeks out from a fight, and then you do blood tests until three weeks out from a fight, testing for a couple of weeks, and then you have no blood testing for a final 19 or 18 days.

        I know that the threat is there of them blood testing at any time, and that that means that it could be random, but in this particular case, in the end, it really wasn't. Now, you started out by asking 'What is it that a boxer could do?'
        gayweather/mosley never had random testing done. at best, it was OST-lite.

        Comment

        • tredh
          Undisputed Champion
          Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
          • Apr 2007
          • 5949
          • 204
          • 3
          • 12,544

          #14
          So basically what Conte just said is that state commission testing and the testing the PBF and Mosley took is some bull****!!! I can respect that coming from him cause he knowledgble about roids!!!

          Comment

          • P.K
            Banned
            Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
            • May 2011
            • 650
            • 30
            • 4
            • 823

            #15
            Conte knows what they test for and works with Donaire and Ward...

            He can pass their tests LOL

            Comment

            • Pullcounter
              no guts no glory
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Jan 2004
              • 42582
              • 549
              • 191
              • 49,739

              #16
              Originally posted by tredh
              So basically what Conte just said is that state commission testing and the testing the PBF and Mosley took is some bull****!!! I can respect that coming from him cause he knowledgble about roids!!!
              so if the testing is bull****... the logical conclusion is that wifebeater's posturing about OST is also bull****.

              think it through *****s and pac-haters (
              not you tredh)...

              Comment

              • Pinoy4ever
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Apr 2011
                • 1962
                • 36
                • 0
                • 18,183

                #17
                *****s hate this thread. But they know that it's the truth

                Comment

                • Bee Keepz
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 1872
                  • 67
                  • 0
                  • 8,119

                  #18
                  Floyd Mayweather:

                  TEST THIS M'FER

                  "Not saying that I wish nothing bad on Shane because I want Shane to win. Everybody says, 'Well, if Shane wins, what about your money?' I don't worry about that. I got things outside the ring that I'm generating major income from...If I was Shane, you know what I would do? I would go back to the old Shane, so he can be on an even playing field. Just say **** it."
                  - Floyd Mayweather Jr.

                  http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content9859.html

                  Comment

                  • Pullcounter
                    no guts no glory
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 42582
                    • 549
                    • 191
                    • 49,739

                    #19
                    Originally posted by Pinoy4ever
                    *****s hate this thread. But they know that it's the truth
                    where are these casual PEDs experts now???

                    Comment

                    • Vasyl’s dad
                      He said no rematch
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 23510
                      • 1,120
                      • 1,945
                      • 50,072

                      #20
                      Originally posted by tredh
                      So basically what Conte just said is that state commission testing and the testing the PBF and Mosley took is some bull****!!! I can respect that coming from him cause he knowledgble about roids!!!
                      No, he specifically said the testing conducted by the U.S.A.D.A.,

                      was not random at all.

                      The U.S.A.D.A., was in charge of this supposedly random blood testing.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP