Can we talk defensive boxing for a bit?

[GattiFan]

James Toney was a superb defensive fighter.

I dont mean running, or "boxing with your feet first"

I mean...he came to beat your teeth out, but usually accomplished it by making you miss.

Go watch his fights and you will see the difference immediately between Him and the other "defensive fighters"

[BOXEO626SGV]

The radar - wilfredo benitez

[BOXEO626SGV]

Joshua Clottey and Arthur Abraham too.... they take punches but never really been severely hurt.... it might save them from brain damage too since they don't get hit flush as much as other fighters

[Fights.]

I had a question though, what is it that Floyd does that separates him apart from all other possible defensive fighters, as the best one?

Floyd is among the fastest boxers, defensive or not.

Here's my list:

TOP 10 MOST POWERFUL PUNCHES
1. Earnie Shavers
2. Julian Jackson
3. George Foreman
4. Mike Tyson & David Tua
5. Hagler, Hearns & Duran
6. Sugar Ray Robinson
7. Bob Foster & Stanley Ketchel
8. Manny Pacquiao & Prince Naseem Hamed
9. Rocky Marciano & Joe Louis
10. Wilfredo Gomez & Felix Trinidad

TOP 10 FASTEST
1. Roy Jones Jr
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Meldrick Taylor
4. Sugar Ray Robinson
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Willie Pep
7. Pernell Whitaker
8. Floyd Mayweather Jr
9. Muhammad Ali
10. Hector Camacho Sr. & Sugar Shane Mosley

TOP 10 BEST DEFENSE
1. Willie Pep
2. Nicolino Locche
4. Benny Leonard
4. Gene Tunney
5. Billy Conn & Eder Jofre
6. Alexis Arguello
7. Pernell Whitaker, & Floyd Mayweather Jr.
8. Bernard Hopkins & James Toney
9. Ricardo Lopez, Wilfred Benitez, & Juan Manuel Marquez
10. Muhammad Ali

TOP 10 MOST RELENTLESS
1. Rocky Marciano & Jake LaMotta
2. Rocky Graziano & Sonny Liston
3. Mike Tyson & George Foreman
4. Battling Nelson
5. Harry Greb
6. Henry Armstrong
7. Carmen Basilio
8. Roberto Duran, Aaron Pryor & Manny Pacquiao
9. Erik Morales & Barrera
10. Arturo Gatti & Mickey Ward

[viperz007]

I know that Floyd Mayweather JR is a "defensive wizard" or "master of defense" and when I watch other fighters try to be defensive, they dont look half as good or efficient as he does. It's almost like Floyd Mayweather has armor around him thats practically impenetrable.

Though, I can't seem to find other boxers who have AS good defensive skills if not better. Only other person I can come up with is Pernell Whitaker and he was really elusive more than reflective or blocking. Call me new but I'm here to learn.

So who else can there be? What makes em stand out too?

try to put those dang defensive fighters againts an old man or a weight below them fighters i bet ya theyll look as good might possibly better than how floyd does LOL

or make them cherrypick opponents lol