Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Martinez: Arum Feels Weight Gap is Too Much

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Your a$$ forgot to mention the rest of the future fighters I put up along with that comment.. All of them has their limit on Pac. Why? QUite simple. Cause it's Pac. Now..If I had JMM in place of Pac facing the same opposition, then 4 or 5 of those boxers Pac faced would put JMM as an underdog.

Do you now see the white light mi amigo. The reason why it's unfair to ya'll jealous fans, is not because of Pac's opponents. It's because of Pac himself. He's too good for himself that everyone thinks he is fighting an easy opponent. All you have to do is Place Pac's name with your favorite boxer and just picture how they would do against those same situation that Pac went through. It's hard to imagine right.

No, I do not. The fact is that Pac has not faced a live dog since Marquez, and that point alone confirms that the ATG rating that you have bestowed on Manny is nothing but inept fanboy'ism.

" Oh but Hoya was the favorite in that fight ".....

Fkn bull****, he was not, Manny was the betting favorite in that fight..... NOW, that point is actually completely irrelevant. Hoya cherry-picked Pac in that fight, lets not forget that point..... but that point does not change the fact that Hoya was old, shot, drained, was fighting 9 lbs lower than a weight he had been comfortable in for 7 years, and..... his weight two weeks out, at the weigh-in, and on fight-night, was..... 145/145/145..... END OF STORY.

Pac is NOT an ATG for beating a washed up old guy that even Marquez would have KTFO that night. Not only would Marquez have KTFO Hoya, so would have most of the top JWW's, and all of the top welter's.

Your imagination must work overtime, because you have grouped a collection of good wins over average-good opposition, and made them into an ATG resume'

*** knows how or why you did that

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Are some of you people serious? Manny walks around 144-146 lbs. He even admitted after the Margarito fight that fight people 160+ is too much for him but yet YOU CALL HIM A COWARD for not fighting someone who walks around at 165+?

Are you people forgetting that Manny started his pro career at 106?

Some of the blind hatred for Manny is getting annoying.

Why aren't some of you calling out PBF to fight martinez or is their gonna be a double standard?

Hell why doesn't Martinez MOVE up and challenge the higher belts?

This is the kind of crybaby post that annoys me.

Answer my question, and you had better fkn reply.....

In your opinion, is Manny a genuine JMW champion and 8-division titlist ?

Don't reply with any bull****, that question requires a one-word answer.....
YES, or NO ?

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1.) Floyd Mayweather - he agreed to ALL terms, and Pac went AWOL

2.) Miguel Cotto - no, not at catch-weight..... at WELTER

3.) Shane Mosley - when he was ranked the #1 welter, NOT two years later when you could clearly see that he was a faded old man

4.) Victor Ortiz - NEXT, he is obviously the third best welter on the planet, and clearly the most qualified to fight Pac. This fight will not happen

i said except for floyd , he eventually fought mosley , cotto was a bum , ortiz wasnt a welterweight , you dont know anythign about boxing , pac floored all credible welterweights , you just got served , hater

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No, people are demanding this fight because Manny, along with his inept fanboys, insist that Pac is a genuine JMW champ and 8-division titlist.

Well, if that is the case..... then lets go Pac, lets get it on

Pac can either.....
* drop that junk in the bin, in which case, no problem
* grow some balls and fight Martinez

I am sick and tired of the two different sets of rules for Pacquiao.

Double-standards, and truly great fighters, DO NOT go hand-in-hand.

Listen kid...
1. prettyboy jump 2 weight division fight de la hoya and become the top dog.
2. pacman jump 2 weight division fight de la hoya and become the top dog.
3. if the "top dog" pacman fight martinez at 154 or more he is the most ****** dog in the history of boxing.

if Martinez want to become the "top dog" he can fight pac at 150 or challenge the winner of super six next year, cause im sure he can't be the top dog fighting in weak MW rightnow.
and one more thing,i know he is good fighter but Martinez resume is weak he only have P WiLL and faded pavlik. he better hurry cause he's 36 rightnow. cause pacman is fine.....

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i said except for floyd , he eventually fought mosley , cotto was a bum , ortiz wasnt a welterweight , you dont know anythign about boxing , pac floored all credible welterweights , you just got served , hater

He " eventually " fought Mosley.....

Yea fkn right, that cherry-picker Pacquiao ducked Mosley TWICE !!

When Shane was the #1 welter Pac ran like a little b1tch, but as soon as Mosley got schooled by Mayweather and uglied by Mora..... all of a sudden Manny wants to fight. What a cherry-picker, when will that guy grow some balls..... and now he wants to fight a lightweight.

Manny is still fighting old men, faded champions, and no-hopers, will that kid never stop stealing scraps off Mayweather's table.

And Cotto was not a bum you clown, he was a cracked egg.

Cotto was highly vulnerable after being battered by Margarito and Clottey, he was not in his prime, and he most definitely was not on top of his game.... plus, Pacquaio tried to beat him on the scales

You are a joke for insinutaing that I know nothing about boxing, if you were not a naive fanboy I would not have had to explain the facts of life to your whiney asss.

Put down your Manny-doll and grow up ya dumb kid.

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Listen kid...
1. prettyboy jump 2 weight division fight de la hoya and become the top dog.
2. pacman jump 2 weight division fight de la hoya and become the top dog.
3. if the "top dog" pacman fight martinez at 154 or more he is the most ****** dog in the history of boxing.

if Martinez want to become the "top dog" he can fight pac at 150 or challenge the winner of super six next year, cause im sure he can't be the top dog fighting in weak MW rightnow.
and one more thing,i know he is good fighter but Martinez resume is weak he only have P WiLL and faded pavlik. he better hurry cause he's 36 rightnow. cause pacman is fine.....

" kid ", answer me one question....

NOTE: If you do not reply, then you are getting called a b1tch everytime I see you.

In your opinion, is Manny a genuine JMW champion and 8-division titlist ?

Don't reply with any bull****, that question requires a one-word answer.....

YES, or NO ?

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Martinez would take the drug test against Mayweather and Martinez wouldn't request a drug test against Pacquiao, so whats the hold up?

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if sergio comes in fight night at 160 and pac usually 150 or 149 it wouldn't be to bad...but again thats asking way to much..but i dont doubt the heart of pac

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if sergio comes in fight night at 160 and pac usually 150 or 149 it wouldn't be to bad...but again thats asking way to much..but i dont doubt the heart of pac

Jeez, I do..... I doubt Manny's heart bigtime.

Cotto was faded, shop-worn, he had been battered by Margarito and Clottey, he was not in his prime, he was not on top of his game, and he had no trainer to speak of, and Cotto eventually agreed to 145..... but even that wasnt enough for Pac, Roach wanted 144, and Manny wanted Miguel to drop to 143.

Pacquiao would not look at Shane when he was the #1 welter, he ducked him TWICE!! But as soon as Mosley looked old and faded..... he became the man.

Manny never intended to fight a JMW opponent, he just wanted to cheat history by stealing a JMW title, they admitted even before the Margarito fight that Manny would never defend his title..... so, I doubt Manny's heart bigtime.

Even though he could easily make 140, and even though Marquez would be disadvantaged even at JWW..... Manny will not fight the 40yo midget unless he jumps TWO DIVISIONS.

Since Marquez, Pacquiao will not fight a skilled boxer, a skilled counter-puncher, a prime opponent coming off a win, or anybody who is on top of their game..... just old men and Top Rank bums.

Jeez..... I doubt Manny's heart bigtime.

Notice, I didnt even mention Sergio

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" kid ", answer me one question....

NOTE: If you do not reply, then you are getting called a b1tch everytime I see you.

In your opinion, is Manny a genuine JMW champion and 8-division titlist ?

Don't reply with any bull****, that question requires a one-word answer.....

YES, or NO ?

dont talk to me like im fanboy or something, i am not nuthugger like you. manny JMW title is bullsheet but i dont think he fighting margo is bullsheet at all, is a great match-up with great outcome but they shouldn't put a title in that match end of story.
but i know u can think reasonable like me cause you hate manny with all your heart. true manny fight at CW with margo but margo not drained, true the fight use 8oz glove but margo wear it too and he have 17lbs advantage at the fight night, true margo got carreer ending injury but manny got beating too. is about margo size & power vs. manny speed.
And one thing the fight with margo is at 150 lbs CW. nothing wrong with CW.

thing reasonable