If Pac/Mosley did 1.3-1.4 mil and May/Mosley did 1.4mil

[megadeth]

Then what does this say about Roach's excuse's not to fight Shane in 2009?? One of his reasons(other than Shane being too good) was Cotto would be a bigger draw. Cotto Pac only did 1.25 mil.

[lfc19titles]

they got it wrong but no shame in it at all

remember when after the cotto fight mosley was booked with berto, if he wasnt then i could have seen that fight been made then but the golden boy feud with top rank may have killed all chances

lets be real bud, the reason pac vs mosley didnt happen earlier was because of top rank and gb wont deal with each other until floyd and pac retire

as soon as mosley left gb, the fight was made, same with marquez

[Russian Crushin]

Roach is neither a matchmaker nor manager nor a promoter

He DOES NOT make these decisions

[megadeth]

Roach is neither a matchmaker nor manager nor a promoter

He DOES NOT make these decisions

That doesn't change the fact he didn't want Pac anywhere near Mosley at the time. Hense the request of a 142-43 catweight.

[Bullrider]

Roach wanted a lot of fighters for Pac. Not a lot of them happened. So stop this bs about trainers exerting huge influence over who their fighter should fight.

I also see a lot of posters saying Roach is not a truth teller. So which is it?

[KING MEAT]

Pac wasnt as big of a draw back then.

[megadeth]

they got it wrong but no shame in it at all

remember when after the cotto fight mosley was booked with berto, if he wasnt then i could have seen that fight been made then but the golden boy feud with top rank may have killed all chances

lets be real bud, the reason pac vs mosley didnt happen earlier was because of top rank and gb wont deal with each other until floyd and pac retire

as soon as mosley left gb, the fight was made, same with marquez

Floyd had the same reasoning for not fighting Cotto, Margarito or any other TR fighter, yet, continually said to have ducked them. I never saw Cotto or Margarito in Floyds gym begging for the fight. Forget that it was acutally Arum who ducked the Cotto/Mayweather fight.

Roach gave his reasons clearly why he didn't want that fight at the time.....UNLESS it was at 141-42.

The GB top rank feud at that time, was not as big as it is now.

[Bullrider]

Lol. A Floyd fan making a deal out of this. There is Martinez for Floyd without Arum to deal with. Where is Floyd?

[Larry the boss]

Lol. A Floyd fan making a deal out of this. There is Martinez for Floyd without Arum to deal with. Where is Floyd?

wheres manny???martinez been calling him out aswell

[Russian Crushin]

Floyd had the same reasoning for not fighting Cotto, Margarito or any other TR fighter, yet, continually said to have ducked them. I never saw Cotto or Margarito in Floyds gym begging for the fight. Forget that it was acutally Arum who ducked the Cotto/Mayweather fight.

Roach gave his reasons clearly why he didn't want that fight at the time.....UNLESS it was at 141-42.

The GB top rank feud at that time, was not as big as it is now.

Again Roach does not control who Pac fights or a what weight he fights them at

The sooner you understand this, the less ******ed your thread will be