I keep saying it and I will keep on saying it.

**Carpe Diem** · 05-15-2011, 12:05 AM

Agree. It's all about doing whatever necessary to get the W. Some guys can do it, and some can't.

**The Gambler1981** · 05-15-2011, 12:09 AM

I do agree that Ward and Bradley both have something about them all be it a bit different.

Ward just has that big tool box and can take a fight into different areas where it does not suit the other guy, versatility kills and Ward has that in spades and on top of that he is willing to get his hands dirty if that is what is required. I like that he plays to win like that.

Bradley is a bit different as I don't see him having the multiple ways to beat a guy and sometimes he looks kind of sloppy, but he certainly has that will that won't be denied. Whenever I think about him my mind always goes back to the first round of the Holt fight where Bradley got hit with a punch as good a punch could possibly be landed then got up like nothing was wrong and proceeded to take control of the fight like he wasn't even concerned about it happening again.

**gapo** · 05-15-2011, 12:11 AM

That was not even ward's best night. Still made it look too easy.

**Southpawology** · 05-15-2011, 12:14 AM

ward has the "it" because he actually faces the best and wins

bradley doesnt have the "it" until he backs up all his smack talk grows some balls and actually fights khan like he talked about doing

**gapo** · 05-15-2011, 12:14 AM

Bradley's fight against devon hurt him. It was advertised so hugh of a fight for nothing.

**V.WEBB** · 05-15-2011, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by The Gambler1981

I do agree that Ward and Bradley both have something about them all be it a bit different.

Ward just has that big tool box and can take a fight into different areas where it does not suit the other guy, versatility kills and Ward has that in spades and on top of that he is willing to get his hands dirty if that is what is required. I like that he plays to win like that.

Bradley is a bit different as I don't see him having the multiple ways to beat a guy and sometimes he looks kind of sloppy, but he certainly has that will that won't be denied. Whenever I think about him my mind always goes back to the first round of the Holt fight where Bradley got hit with a punch as good a punch could possibly be landed then got up like nothing was wrong and proceeded to take control of the fight like he wasn't even concerned about it happening again.

Spot on brother.

**BattleAxePurist** · 05-15-2011, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by SkillspayBills

Fighters like Tomthy Bradley and Andre Ward might not be the fastest, the quickest, the strongest and hell alot of their fights are borefests but they have "it". They just have that "it" where it doesn't really matter to them they will do whatever it takes to win. I stopped believing in fighters after Chad Dawson crushed me but when I see them fight, you can just tell they don't really give a **** because they will get that win whether they fight on the inside, on the outside just doesn't matter.

WE BE WINNING.

There is merit to your Dawson take we'll never know what would of happened in the last couple of rounds of the Pascal fight, true he seemed hesitant and unwilling to let his hands go but i think he'll learn ala Ortiz @ if steward can help bring that out to me he's one of the best fighters in the game.

**bojangles1987** · 05-15-2011, 07:20 AM

Ward is unbelievable. He is maybe the most complete fighter in the sport. If he beats the Froch/Johnson winner, there isn't anyone in his weight range who will beat him.

**Walt Liquor** · 05-15-2011, 07:48 AM

I agree with you sob, but grinders rarely become sTars (bhop hasn't always been a grinder). Ward doesn't have the power he'd need IMO and I don't know about his chin. We know about brAdley's.

Neither guy is an easy out for anyone in boxing.

I look forward to seeing them fight the best.

I keep saying it and I will keep on saying it.