Interesting: Froch OUTBOXED Abraham Like No One Did!

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    #21
    People haven't even mentioned that Ward headbutted Kessler to death.. Whereas Froch vs Kessler was a clean but still brutal fight. Ward would have had a much harder time with Kessler if those headbutts hadn't landed. They made a massive difference in the way the fight played out. Dirrell and Froch both did better against Abraham than Ward did but I think those 3 are pretty evenly matched. And we can't forget Glen Johnson, that guy is a legend in his own right and he still has the skills to pull off an upset.

    Overall I wasn't as impressed with Ward against Abraham or Kessler (because the headbutts were the deciding factor vs Kessler) compared to Dirrell vs Abraham and Froch vs Abraham/Kessler.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Fix
      People haven't even mentioned that Ward headbutted Kessler to death.. Whereas Froch vs Kessler was a clean but still brutal fight. Ward would have had a much harder time with Kessler if those headbutts hadn't landed. They made a massive difference in the way the fight played out. Dirrell and Froch both did better against Abraham than Ward did but I think those 3 are pretty evenly matched. And we can't forget Glen Johnson, that guy is a legend in his own right and he still has the skills to pull off an upset.

      Overall I wasn't as impressed with Ward against Abraham or Kessler (because the headbutts were the deciding factor vs Kessler) compared to Dirrell vs Abraham and Froch vs Abraham/Kessler.
      yea, i think he stands teh best chance against ward thanks to his inside fighting

      everyone else just gets spoiled

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        #23
        Originally posted by slimshandy69
        the lies of carl froch continue.

        Froch embarrasingly behind??he was going into the final round on a split decision in taylors back yard. How the **** is that embarrassing?you dumb ****. Even if froch did not brain damage taylor in the final round, it would have been 10-8 round and froch would have lost by 1 round on a split decision in taylors backyard.

        That is a fact. Only thig i agree with you with is glen johnson will be a very tough fight.

        now **** off.
        well the canadian judge had just downed a case of lucky lagers and given froch 8 out of the first 11 rounds so lets not take his judging too seriously. froch needed 3 knockdowns in the final round just to salvage a draw on the other 2 sober judges scorecards.

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          #24
          Originally posted by PureBoxingCEO
          How does Froch with his ''limited'' boxing skills did a better job and took fewer punches from Abraham than each Ward and Dirrell did?
          Froch is a very very underrated fighter plain and simple..Froch Ward will be a great fight if Froch get's by Johnson(which I believe he will)he will beat Ward..I seen some flaws in Ward yesterday,but I have to say Wards defense is great..Hopefully fans will give Froch his props after he win's the SS..

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            #25
            Originally posted by damned1974
            People are forgetting that Froch was embarrassingly behind on the scorecards against Jermain Taylor,who is less mobile than Ward.
            People also forget that he should have lost against Dirrell...

            I think Froch/Ward will look something similar to the final few rounds of Froch/Dirrell....with Ward having an easy target for his fast hands.

            Froch doesn't have the hand speed to even land his punches cleanly,and Froch hasn't got a stoppage since Taylor (similar to Abraham).I have respect for Froch,because he wants all the big fights and is a warrior,but he is getting outclassed...then of course,he needs to pass the Glen Johnson test first,which will not be an easy task.
            Do you believe Froch is the same fighter that fought Taylor??I hope not,it would also mean ya have'int been following his fights at all..Froch has become a bit better with each fight,and Froch is not the same fighter that has fought Taylor..

            Not to mention Ward has never fought a fighter like Taylor..Fast tall rangy good movement and power..All of Wards opponents have been stand right in front of him plodders..I would give Ward a lil more respect if he fought a Johnson or Dirrell,at least they would have been a different style of fighter..

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              #26
              Froch has more reach and power, and was able to use it to force Abraham back in ways Ward and Dirrell couldn't. He definitely had the most dominating performance against Abraham.

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                #27
                Originally posted by slimshandy69
                the lies of carl froch continue.

                Froch embarrasingly behind??he was going into the final round on a split decision in taylors back yard. How the **** is that embarrassing?you dumb ****. Even if froch did not brain damage taylor in the final round, it would have been 10-8 round and froch would have lost by 1 round on a split decision in taylors backyard.

                That is a fact. Only thig i agree with you with is glen johnson will be a very tough fight.

                now **** off.
                Froch was behind on the scorecards-and in a legit manner against a guy who notoriously fades.Backyard or not is NOT my point,the fact that Froch himself was getting beat by a Taylor who most people thought was spent,is embarrassing....

                now get off Frochy's lap fa@@ot.
                Froch will be in for a very tough fight indeed with Johnson

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                  #28
                  Honestly i think Abrahams mentality was different in the Ward fight. He seemed waayyy hungrier and determined in this fight with Ward then with Froch.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by romebyko
                    Do you believe Froch is the same fighter that fought Taylor??I hope not,it would also mean ya have'int been following his fights at all..Froch has become a bit better with each fight,and Froch is not the same fighter that has fought Taylor..

                    Not to mention Ward has never fought a fighter like Taylor..Fast tall rangy good movement and power..All of Wards opponents have been stand right in front of him plodders..I would give Ward a lil more respect if he fought a Johnson or Dirrell,at least they would have been a different style of fighter..
                    I like Froch and most of the guys in the Super six,but let's be honest- Froch is a crude and akward slugger that discovered how to throw his jab for all 12 rounds (usually he abandons it halfway through).This is what makes him exciting.

                    Froch still has the same defensive flaws that he has always had-plain and simple.Maybe you would like to share where he has improved...because the last I checked,he still has the bad defense that he has always had.Now,again-I still like watching Froch fights,but Ward is on another level.If you cannot see this,you must not study the sport.

                    As for you complaining about Ward's opponents....I can't take that very serious.He isn't choosing his opponents-the tourney has done that.Don't be surprised when he takes this tourney...Froch will not be able to beat Ward,I can go on about why I say this in detail,and will if requested.

                    Last I checked,Taylor is a fighter who stands in front of you-not the brilliant movement that you mention.He keeps a jab in your face,but is more stationary than someone like a Dirrell or a Ward...In fact,if Taylor had a bit of foot movement in the Abraham fight,he would have had more success instead of standing in front of the big punchers he has faced.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by oaklandstephen
                      Honestly i think Abrahams mentality was different in the Ward fight. He seemed waayyy hungrier and determined in this fight with Ward then with Froch.
                      TBH, Abraham had 2 training camps in each of his last 2 fights since both Dirrell and Froch claimed back problems before facing Arthur...

                      This version of Arthur didn't over-train and could have been more dangerous because his back was against the wall...he had nothing to lose and was determined.He even tried to open up earlier in this fight than the previous other fights,but against Ward,it did him no favours...in fact,his suspect stamina surfaced halfway I believe.He definitely knew he needed a win over Ward just to stay in this tourney....if that isn't motivation enough,then a fire under his butt wouldn't have gotten him to jump.

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