This is more or less my point too... This new found dominance/power with guys who are middleweights on fight night is just a bit too funny for me to accept as "Ariza shake" magic or 7000 calorie dynamite punch diet.
The FACT that Manny is suspect when it comes to RANDOM tests and needing 14 day cutoffs and "fear of needles" just makes this situation even more suspect.
maybe we can ask the CIA to investigate as they recently got OSAMA...
"I no longer can see shots in time coming at me, and I no longer can take shots when they hit me. But I still like getting the big bucks. Pay me again fools. Next time I really will defeat father time, I promise you. Just give me another chance, I'll show you. It'll be a great fight with..."
If Manny hits harder than ODLH and Vernon Forest at WW, then i'm sorry he is 100% on a ****tail of HGH, insulin, testosterone, EPO and whatever else. The reason i say this is why wasn't he KOing JMM, Larios and other guys at 130. HE hit JMM plenty of times......way more than he hit Shane....why isn't JMM dead????? It's ridiculous really, you may increase overall power moving up, but relative to the bigger men it won't have the same effect.
Manny has increased his speed, punch output and POWER. How can a guy from 130.....who wasn't decapitating guys in the lower weights he was hitting over and over suddenly hit harder than ODLH at 147, a guy that has destroyed fighters with a single left hook???
I personally feel MP is on PED's, but even still he isn't hitting as hard as ODLH or even how hard Shane used to for that matter. It's just Shane's perception....he is older, not as strong....his ability to take a shot isn't what it used to be (again look at the Floyd fight) and he can't see them coming anymore. For the first few rds of their fight Manny hit Margarito at will and Margo went to the corner saying he couldn't hurt him.....that doesn't sound like someone who is hitting harder than the Viper or ODLH??......it when Margo got caught with that brilliant short uppercut he didn't see in a bad spot (orbital bone) that he got hurt.
that is why people say Pac is an ATG because of what he is... if all boxers are all the same as per your theory, then there were no such thing as ATG...
It is interesting how some here get all worked up, often over rumors, lies, absurdities, and are being played by the ones they adore. And these people being played have lost all sense of humor. You can't even joke about this situation. It has become like a new religion for them.
Me, I don't think we need idols. They never live up to things. None of them.
I see two bottom lines here. For people who say, Floyd would beat Pac, just say, "Obviously Floyd himself doesn't think so." What Floyd and followers should be doing is trying to get the NV boxing Commission and/or NV legislature to change the law and the regs. Till then, someone's aspersions are merely that.
And the ultimate bottom line is the libel court case where all those who cast aspersions will get every opportunity to present any valid evidence whatsoever in the court room for their allegations. (As some have said here, some of the new stuff from Floyd on video will be used against him.)
Although I predict, to save massive legal fees, there will be a retraction and apology. As I think Floyd's lawyers are obligated to tell him the expectation that since he has no evidence, he will lose in court.
maybe we can ask the CIA to investigate as they recently got OSAMA...
I think you may be on to something. It may very well require the CIA. They should also investigate how in 2011, common sense has been so easily shunned in favor of blind allegiance. Maybe there is something in the water?
Maybe it's the same chemical the Charlie Manson followers where given...The killed for a midget named Charlie with no hesitation.
This is more or less my point too... This new found dominance/power with guys who are middleweights on fight night is just a bit too funny for me to accept as "Ariza shake" magic or 7000 calorie dynamite punch diet.
The FACT that Manny is suspect when it comes to RANDOM tests and needing 14 day cutoffs and "fear of needles" just makes this situation even more suspect.
so, i guess you fall under the "butt hurt kneecan" type of pac hater.
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